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[Brian McCat]

Kentucky gets bowl eligible and Bobby Johnson's seat gets warmer.
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[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

Congrats Brian. we'll see you in 2 weeks.

[cotton]

Originally Posted by Brian McCat

Kentucky gets bowl eligible and Bobby Johnson's seat gets warmer.
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Congratulations! Well on your way to 2-6 in conference again

As for Johnson, I thought he was one of the few deemed coaching genius no matter how many games he loses. I've probably watched as much Vandy football as anybody, and honestly I'm not sure you could fill a thimble with the difference in the program between Dinardo, Woody, Dowhower, and now Johnson, other than the addition of a 12th game against an OOC patsy. The place is a coaching graveyard, where you had better parlay a .500 season into a better job quickly or you'll be looking for a coordinator position before you know it.

[tim]

Bobby Johnson is like baby Jesus to the Vandy clan. His seat is not near being hot, much less warm. Vandy fans are the most content bunch you will ever meet. Hell, even the radio personalities (schmucks) in Nashville never say anything disparaging about Johnson. Their built in excuse is "it's Vandy".

Good win though Brian. Congrats on the bowl eligible status.

[VolsSportsFan]

Originally Posted by tim

Bobby Johnson is like baby Jesus to the Vandy clan. His seat is not near being hot, much less warm. Vandy fans are the most content bunch you will ever meet. Hell, even the radio personalities (schmucks) in Nashville never say anything disparaging about Johnson. Their built in excuse is "it's Vandy".

Good win though Brian. Congrats on the bowl eligible status.

Johson is safe, but a good portion of the Vandy fans left don't like Johnson at all. So I wouldn't say they are content. The administration likely is but if you check out Vandymania, there's a good many of them that wouldn't care one bit if he was canned.

He won't be of course, because he's done what no Vandy coach had done in 25 years; beat UT and win a bowl game. But even still, I think he's pretty awful as a head coach, even by Vandy standards. I've watched his teams since he's been there and the talent has actually improved yet the coaching hasn't. Ted Cain couldn't get a job as an OC at a high school, yet Johnson keeps him on. Their offense is beyond pathetic. They still make the same mistakes (time management, special teams, etc.) that they did back in 2002 when he took over. And he's beyond stubborn when it comes to sticking with things that aren't working (Chris Nickson at QB last year, Larry Smith at QB this year).

The telling thing to me is 2 times he's blown great starts. They started 4-0 in 2005, only to then lose at home to winless MTSU. That year they at the least should have been 7-4. They lost to a bad MTSU team and a bad Kentucky team, both at home, with the best QB they'll ever see at Vandy. Last year they start 5-0 ,then lose to a bad Miss. St. team and come home and lose to a bad Duke team. They should have been at worst 9-3 last year year but limped to a 6-6 finish. I'll give them credit, they did beat BC, but they really should have gotten a better bowl had they not choked so many games.

2 games have saved his job; 2005 UT and last year's Kentucky games. Had he not beaten UT I'm not sure he would have even been around last year, but then beating Kentucky to finally get bowl eligible saved it again. Winning the MC Bowl probably bought him 3-4 more years, but he surely didn't build on last year at all. They are right back to being Same Ol Vandy.

[VolsSportsFan]

BTW were there ANY Vandy fans at the game? The shots of the stadium I saw it looked almost all blue.

[Brian McCat]

Originally Posted by VolsSportsFan

BTW were there ANY Vandy fans at the game? The shots of the stadium I saw it looked almost all blue.

Wasn't there, but most people I've talked to said there were about 12,000 Vandy fans, about 25,000 UK fans.

It's a great chance for ppl from the Western part of the state to see the Cats.

[HawaiiVol]

Grats. I guess someone had to win.

[TrueOrange]

Originally Posted by Brian McCat

Kentucky gets bowl eligible and Bobby Johnson's seat gets warmer.
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...how so? He took vandy to it's first bowl game in like what 20 years?

why would they even consider firing him at this point?

[IPorange]

Originally Posted by TrueOrange

...how so? He took vandy to it's first bowl game in like what 20 years?

why would they even consider firing him at this point?

Because Vanderbilt isn't as smart as they say they are.

[Brian McCat]

Originally Posted by TrueOrange

...how so? He took vandy to it's first bowl game in like what 20 years?

why would they even consider firing him at this point?

Most people would say that he was one game from getting fired in 2005 until he beat Tennessee, then again if he'd lost to Kentucky last year. But he won those two games- the later sending Vandy to a bowl. Fans tend to have a short memory. Some are calling for his head on the Vandy boards. Personally, I hope he doesn't stick around. He's the best coach that Vandy's had in a long time.

[VolsSportsFan]

Originally Posted by TrueOrange

...how so? He took vandy to it's first bowl game in like what 20 years?

why would they even consider firing him at this point?

The administration isn't seriously considering it. The fans that are left are because of his loyalty to Ted Cain, the OC. And he is pretty awful.

The fact that he's beaten UT and gotten to a bowl (and won) means he's probably safe for 5 more years at least, but at the same time, I still think he's overrated as a coach as strange as that sounds. His talent has gotten better since he's been there yet they still make the same game management mistakes the crew he took over in 2002 did.

[Brian McCat]

Funny how some vu fans are pining away for Woody's return. Lol
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