Ole Miss Tries To Stop 'Dixie' Chant

[BigVolFan]

Thought this was pretty interesting

Ole Miss Tries To Stop 'Dixie' Chant - Sports News Story - WSB Atlanta

[volfanjustin]

This is ridiculous. The PC police are out in force. People need to quit being so sensitive.

[k-town_king]

GREAT. Get rid of this racists bs.
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[VOLnMiami]

Ridiculous

[CornPoke]

When we went down to play Ole Miss in '05 it was a great experience. I was amazed we won but I was more impressed with the "grove", the students all dresses up, and the southern traditions.

It was great to hear "from Dixie with love" and I didn't think anything of them chanting the "south will rise again" I highly doubt they really think the south will rise again. I took it as them just cheering for a southern team.

If that's considered racist.. The whole antebellum architecture in Oxford could be considered racist. They no longer have a mascot anymore, so when does the PC slippery slope ever end?

Could a volunteer be considered racist against Mexicans because they fought and took their land? I see a day when this is an issue. Sad to think about...

[perico]

I remember back in high school when we thought it was cool to have rebel flag license plates. When you mature, you start to understand that "heritage not hatred" doesn't fly.

In an extreme example, what if Germans started driving around with Swatstika license plates proclaiming that it was "heritage not hatred?" Or started dancing around to song's like "the 3rd Reich's Gonna Do It Again?" Or "What if Hitler Had Won the War?"

Now, I personally don't see the need for any sort of administration to try and end something like Dixie chants, and I don't support them doing so. At the same time, I scratch my head when I wonder why people would want to anyways because it's offensive to a hell of a lot of people.

Think about it, it's the promotion of a symbol that was used to keep blacks in their place at a time when that meant in the cottonfields or hanging from a tree. It doesn't matter whether or not that's the "true meaning" or what it means to you personally.

[westsidefan]

Originally Posted by perico

Now, I personally don't see the need for any sort of administration to try and end something like Dixie chants, and I don't support them doing so. At the same time, I scratch my head when I wonder why people would want to anyways because it's offensive to a hell of a lot of people.

Think about it, it's the promotion of a symbol that was used to keep blacks in their place at a time when that meant in the cottonfields or hanging from a tree. It doesn't matter whether or not that's the "true meaning" or what it means to you personally.

yeah,i don't have a problem with the band playing dixie or whatever but it's a good decision that they decided to stop the confederate flag waving there.

you can fly the flag and be 100% not racist but no matter what you do or think personally it's gonna give off a "racisty" vibe

[Vol_4_Life]

Originally Posted by perico

I remember back in high school when we thought it was cool to have rebel flag license plates. When you mature, you start to understand that "heritage not hatred" doesn't fly.

In an extreme example, what if Germans started driving around with Swatstika license plates proclaiming that it was "heritage not hatred?" Or started dancing around to song's like "the 3rd Reich's Gonna Do It Again?" Or "What if Hitler Had Won the War?"

Now, I personally don't see the need for any sort of administration to try and end something like Dixie chants, and I don't support them doing so. At the same time, I scratch my head when I wonder why people would want to anyways because it's offensive to a hell of a lot of people.

Think about it, it's the promotion of a symbol that was used to keep blacks in their place at a time when that meant in the cottonfields or hanging from a tree. It doesn't matter whether or not that's the "true meaning" or what it means to you personally.

Ah, the old Confederacy-Nazi Germany comparison. As far as I know, the Confederacy never participated in the execution of millions of innocent people.

Besides, what is racist about the song "Dixie?"

[pantone151]

Originally Posted by perico

I remember back in high school when we thought it was cool to have rebel flag license plates. When you mature, you start to understand that "heritage not hatred" doesn't fly.

In an extreme example, what if Germans started driving around with Swatstika license plates proclaiming that it was "heritage not hatred?" Or started dancing around to song's like "the 3rd Reich's Gonna Do It Again?" Or "What if Hitler Had Won the War?"

Now, I personally don't see the need for any sort of administration to try and end something like Dixie chants, and I don't support them doing so. At the same time, I scratch my head when I wonder why people would want to anyways because it's offensive to a hell of a lot of people.

Think about it, it's the promotion of a symbol that was used to keep blacks in their place at a time when that meant in the cottonfields or hanging from a tree. It doesn't matter whether or not that's the "true meaning" or what it means to you personally.

I don't know where to begin with this post. Nazis tried to exterminate a race of people. The Confederacy fought for states rights. To compare the two is down right ludacris, and ignorant. The CSA didn't fight the war to keep slaves. If that's what you believe to be true, you need to read a history book.

Also, the Confederate battle flag was used strictly as a battle flag. It was later adopted by hate groups as a symbol of "white supremacy" which is complete BS. None of the flags used in the Civil War were used as hate symbols by the South.

Whoever thinks otherwise needs to read a history book.

Also, I could be mistaken, but I think the statement "The South will rise again" meant that after the war the South would rebound after being left in ruins by the Union Army.
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[Weezy]

You don't have to go back to the civil war years to see the racism that is associated with South will rise again/Rebel/Confederacy mentality. Look at the uproar at Southern Universities, particularly Ole Miss, during integration issues. This might not have been the Rebel intentions 150 years ago, but it certainly was 50 years ago. I find the whole Confederate pride issue to be disgraceful and wish more people would just let it die.

An ESPN article about
ESPN - OTL: Ghosts of Mississippi - E-ticket

[Ohio Vol]

Originally Posted by perico

I remember back in high school when we thought it was cool to have rebel flag license plates. When you mature, you start to understand that "heritage not hatred" doesn't fly.

In an extreme example, what if Germans started driving around with Swatstika license plates proclaiming that it was "heritage not hatred?" Or started dancing around to song's like "the 3rd Reich's Gonna Do It Again?" Or "What if Hitler Had Won the War?"

Now, I personally don't see the need for any sort of administration to try and end something like Dixie chants, and I don't support them doing so. At the same time, I scratch my head when I wonder why people would want to anyways because it's offensive to a hell of a lot of people.

Think about it, it's the promotion of a symbol that was used to keep blacks in their place at a time when that meant in the cottonfields or hanging from a tree. It doesn't matter whether or not that's the "true meaning" or what it means to you personally.

A few random points. I'll also add that I am a secessionist; if a group of people want to be free, they have that right. If they want to break away from their existing country and form a dictatorship, they have that right as well.

1) The overwhelming number of Germans that I have met carry a great deal of shame over the Third Reich, in spite of the fact that they are not Nazis and they weren't even alive when the war ended.

2) Germany has taken steps to outlaw symbols of the Nazi era; the "heil" salute is a federal crime (as one unlucky ex-NHLer found out a few years back), the swastika is illegal, and Holocaust denial is illegal.

3) Whereas the CSA was a confederation of secessionists who wished to split from the established country, Nazi Germany was headed by a group of aggressive expansionists who would slaughter thousands at the drop of a hat in the name of lebensraum. Then you start getting into the whole drang nach osten/westen stuff.

4) The United States government, and more specifically Woodrow Wilson, bears a great deal of responsibility for setting up WWII.

5) The American Revolution featured the following: A group of largely slave-owning secessionists who wished to remove their existing government fighting against a group of their overlords who were within a few years of emancipation within their own country.

Is it safe to say that the American flag is one of racism? The English promised emancipation to slaves who would fight with them against those perfidious secessionists, just as the Yanks would do less than 10 years later. The American flag is one carried into battle by secessionists who apparently wanted nothing more than to preserve slavery against a group that apparently wanted to outlaw it.

Obviously, only a damned fool would argue that the American Revolution was a war over slavery....but it's funny how modern history overlooks that aspect entirely while also overlooking everything that isn't related to slavery for the war that started in 1861.

[gasguy98]

Originally Posted by CornPoke

When we went down to play Ole Miss in '05 it was a great experience. I was amazed we won but I was more impressed with the "grove", the students all dresses up, and the southern traditions.

It was great to hear "from Dixie with love" and I didn't think anything of them chanting the "south will rise again" I highly doubt they really think the south will rise again. I took it as them just cheering for a southern team.

If that's considered racist.. The whole antebellum architecture in Oxford could be considered racist. They no longer have a mascot anymore, so when does the PC slippery slope ever end?

Could a volunteer be considered racist against Mexicans because they fought and took their land? I see a day when this is an issue. Sad to think about...

Nice post. PC is a tool of the ultra left. Ther aim to to do away with all regional cultures/traditions so people will be more apt to follow their agenda. This has been going on for the last 20-30 years now but it has never been more arrogant than now.

[gasguy98]

Originally Posted by perico

I remember back in high school when we thought it was cool to have rebel flag license plates. When you mature, you start to understand that "heritage not hatred" doesn't fly.

In an extreme example, what if Germans started driving around with Swatstika license plates proclaiming that it was "heritage not hatred?" Or started dancing around to song's like "the 3rd Reich's Gonna Do It Again?" Or "What if Hitler Had Won the War?"

Now, I personally don't see the need for any sort of administration to try and end something like Dixie chants, and I don't support them doing so. At the same time, I scratch my head when I wonder why people would want to anyways because it's offensive to a hell of a lot of people.

Think about it, it's the promotion of a symbol that was used to keep blacks in their place at a time when that meant in the cottonfields or hanging from a tree. It doesn't matter whether or not that's the "true meaning" or what it means to you personally.

So the song "The South's Gonna do it Again" by the Charlie Daniels band is about race? My god I have heard it all now!

[gasguy98]

Originally Posted by Weezy

You don't have to go back to the civil war years to see the racism that is associated with South will rise again/Rebel/Confederacy mentality. Look at the uproar at Southern Universities, particularly Ole Miss, during integration issues. This might not have been the Rebel intentions 150 years ago, but it certainly was 50 years ago. I find the whole Confederate pride issue to be disgraceful and wish more people would just let it die.

An ESPN article about
ESPN - OTL: Ghosts of Mississippi - E-ticket

So how far back is far back enough to not be important anymore? The USA has changed more in the last 50 years that it did in the previous 150.
We have the legacy of slavery to deal with, we all know that. However, to deny a region of the country the right to cherish their uniqueness is sheer despotism. This is the USA and the South is a unique region with unique traditions and customs. The war of 1861-1865 was a part of our history. There were many reasons the conflict occurred but it produces some amazing men that are considered heroes.
If there were chants that were directed toward black Americans I would disapprove but the issue at hand is one of the South and in particular the state of Mississippi's unique past.

[ColonelVol]

Just don't take Dixie away! It is one of the best if not the best fight song in all of college football. It is special even to the visitors when The Pride of the South plays it. If students yelling "the South will rise again" troubling to some, it's fine to ask fans to stop singing it. Everyone had a fit when the rebel flag went away and now the school is much better for it!

If you go to the game in two weeks, you MUST go visit the James Meredith statue. It is directly behind the famous Lyceum and not far from the stadium. I promise it will send chills down your spine! It will also remind you how far we have come.