The old ball coach???? - Page 2

BACKDOC · 08-08-2008, 09:35 AM

Fulmer is a better recruiter than Spurrier. When he was at Fla. he probably didn't put over a 1,000 miles on his car during recruiting season.

VolBeef88 · 08-08-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cartervol

Spurrier hasn't forgot how to coach. His talent level is getting better and he'll find a qb eventually. I hope he retires first. Maybe another crappy season will convince him. We'll never have him coach here phil is rooted in deeper than a hickory tree. Spurrier doesn't like to recruit. That would be a big problem here considering how far and wide we have to search for recruits. He is a good coach but the sec is full of them now. Everyone except les miles. I refuse to call him a good coach. More like a guy that got handed the keys to a ferrari and all you got to do is push the gas.

He will not retire before his contract is up. If he does he will have to say good bye to Augusta. And for those who dont know you cannot buy your way into that place. It's a huge deal. Trust me.

Rasputin_Vol · 08-08-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by VolBeef88

I love how people make excuses for him. He no longer has the fire. Proof is he isn't even calling his plays this year. Les Miles get's no credit because he is at LSU and many of you on this thread say that anyone could win there because of the talent. Yet the great one gets all the credit in the world for coaching one of if not the most talent laden states.

Is SOS a very good coach and better than Miles? Of course but both won at schools where the states are LOADED with talent. And dont give me the LSU is the only school crap. There is more than enough talent in FL for all the big schools there and many left over. Check UT roster over the years.

Spurrier won an ACC title at Duke... end of thread.

VolBeef88 · 08-08-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Spurrier won an ACC title at Duke... end of thread.

He had fire then. Now he doesnt. End of thread...

And to compare winning the ACC then and winning in the SEC now is apples to oranges.

Cartervol · 08-08-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Spurrier won an ACC title at Duke... end of thread.

The acc was a different place then just like the sec is a different place now. That is still a feat at a place like duke though.

utvolpj · 08-08-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Spurrier won an ACC title at Duke... end of thread.

he split the ACC that year with a UVA team who beat the crap out of Duke

LWSVOL · 08-08-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ROCKYTOP365

I would like to know why he is still considered in the top five SEC coaches in the league. I know he did alot Florida but he has not done much at S. Carolina maybe just the talent level or maybe he has lost the touch. I know he is a great coach and player we let get away but maybe he has lost his touch since coming back from the pros i would love to hear what you guys think .

the greatest of coaches will always tell you it takes having the best talent to win...

Rasputin_Vol · 08-08-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by utvolpj

he split the ACC that year with a UVA team who beat the crap out of Duke

That does absolutely nothing to take away from the accomplishment.

lsutiga · 08-08-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by utfantilidie

He is the # 1 coach in the SEC in my opinion. It's all about the talent. He can get more out of a qb than anyone and he is not afraid to go straight at you and make you look like a fool trying to figure out his play calling and schemes. He's one cocky rascal but he's earned it.

I agree.

Old saying, "You can't win the Kentucky Derby riding a jackass."

billbattle · 08-08-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by VolBeef88

He had fire then. Now he doesnt. End of thread...

Who, Fulmer?

lsutiga · 08-08-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

He's done about as good as you can expect at that ratnest in Columbia. They went 100 years before they won their first bowl game. He's been able to play Tennessee off their feet all three years he's been there, managed to put together 3 consecutive none-losing seasons, and did all of that with essentially no QB to speak of.

I would still take Spurrier over Fulmer in a NY minute.

Good post. I was stoked when I thought he was coming to LSU.

Fact is he's not been able to pull the recruits out of Florida that he thought he'd be able to.

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the greatest of coaches will always tell you it takes having the best talent to win...

Thank you...I always ask for an example of a coach who wins Championships without loads of talent.

General Jack · 08-08-2008, 09:59 AM

Shoot, he's made the 'cocks competitive, they've beaten georgia, florida and tennessee in the past 3 years.

And thats without top talent.

Give the man talent like he had while at florida and he would win a couple of SEC titles.

With comparable talent fulmer was 3-7 against the man ('92, '98, '01). With a huge advantage in talent Fulmer is 2-1 against him.

tennisguy · 08-08-2008, 10:06 AM

Spurrier is a great coach. He is easily top 5 SEC. I would say he is actually one of the best. I really don't know who is any better. He don't have the talent he had at Florida, but he still competes in the toughest conference in the country. Compare what he is doing at South Carolina to what Lou "Slobbering, Speech Slurring" Holtz did and there is no comparison. Some people actually thought Holtz was a good coach and you see what he did at South Carolina. Yeah, the Ole Ball Coach still has his touch. No doubt about it.

volswin08 · 08-08-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by General Jack

Shoot, he's made the 'cocks competitive, they've beaten georgia, florida and tennessee in the past 3 years.
And thats without top talent.

Give the man talent like he had while at florida and he would win a couple of SEC titles.

With comparable talent fulmer was 3-7 against the man ('92, '98, '01). With a huge advantage in talent Fulmer is 2-1 against him.

It's my opinion, that SOS's defense has made them competative recently...not SOS. He has had NOTHING to do with the improvment of the defense...in fact, he now seems to be doing what he can to tame the defense(refer to canceling practice this week because a LB hit one of his receivers too hard!) SOS, with out the ability to use smoke and mirrors on offense because he can't get enough offensive tallent(no one with NFL aspirations wants to go to SC) has become the OLD ball coach, not the Ole Ball Coach of old....

ihateorange4 · 08-08-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by volswin08

It's my opinion, that SOS's defense has made them competative recently...not SOS. He has had NOTHING to do with the improvment of the defense...in fact, he now seems to be doing what he can to tame the defense(refer to canceling practice this week because a LB hit one of his receivers too hard!) SOS, with out the ability to use smoke and mirrors on offense because he can't get enough offensive tallent(no one with NFL aspirations wants to go to SC) has become the OLD ball coach, not the Ole Ball Coach of old....

Spurrier still has it guys. Hes still building talent and if you were to compare the depth chart now to the one he had 2 years ago you'd be amazed. He still oversees the whole offense and every play must go through him before it is called. He's made just about every game with every team competitive while he's been there (he put up great offensive numbers against Arky and Fla last year, his D-coordinator just didnt have a gameplan). And to the guy who said he can't pull out recruits out of Florida you are mistaken. I dont have an exact number but he's gotten a lot of talent from Florida in his 3 years here. Spurrier enjoys recruiting its just sometimes recruits would rather hear promises and a sugarcoating of the situation whereas Spurrier is honest and tells him straight up (unlike Tommy Bowden). Once he finds the perfect QB and has the offensive line in place he will have a damn good team.