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| The question is - does the NCAA or Europe better prepare a player for the NBA? |
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07-09-2008, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by UT IE 95 Honestly, if he is too scared to take the ACT again, I doubt he'll make it back here and into the league anyway. This next year will expose his character and intelligence more than anything. | The ESPN hype he would have received really kills him. The Arizona fans seems fairly happy he left. I was looking forward to seeing him a lot against decent competition and seeing how he handled himself. There went that
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07-09-2008, 06:20 PM
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07-09-2008, 06:21 PM
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| He could've gone the Juco route but that wouldn't help his stock.
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07-10-2008, 05:07 PM
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| I heard they play more veterans than Fulmer over there, that he can expect a hefty 10 minutes a game. I'd say roughing it through a couple semesters of 12 physical education credits and staying directly in scout's consciousness may be a better deal than going overseas. Besides, I'm not sure what the appeal is for any club team over there to have the best American 18-19 year old for one year. |
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07-10-2008, 05:59 PM
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| I bet they just love passes off the backboard in Europe. |
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07-10-2008, 06:10 PM
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| in his defense they were all-star games.
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07-10-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA in his defense they were all-star games. | I understand that, but it got very old, very fast. He is clearly a helluva player, but the showiness often indicates limited killer instinct, not always, but often.
Bottom line is, he wasn't disciplined enough to get his crap together and pass the ACT. That's pathetic, because anyone sharp enough and driven enough to run a NBA outfit can get that done. |
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07-10-2008, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol I understand that, but it got very old, very fast. He is clearly a helluva player, but the showiness often indicates limited killer instinct, not always, but often.
Bottom line is, he wasn't disciplined enough to get his crap together and pass the ACT. That's pathetic, because anyone sharp enough and driven enough to run a NBA outfit can get that done. | yeah i think he has a discipline issue, he's taking the easy way out with going to Europe, but it will get alot tougher for him once he's in the NBA.
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07-10-2008, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA in his defense they were all-star games. | He played just like that in the 2 real games I got to see him in. It is how he plays.
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07-11-2008, 05:31 PM
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07-13-2008, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Volsguy12 Olson says no more one and dones for him. | Was that a swipe at Kevin O'Neil? 
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07-14-2008, 02:29 AM
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| The NBA's 1 Year rule is a joke anyway. If a kid goes to college, he just has to make 2 D's in the fall semester and he's good to play for the whole season even if he flunks all of his classes in the Spring. It's a complete joke and hurts the colleges I think. They should make a rule where if a high school player wants to go pro he can, but if he decides to go to college, it should be like baseball and you have to stay for 3 years before you go pro. |
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07-18-2008, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Was that a swipe at Kevin O'Neil?  | If it is, it's further proof that Lute is totally senile. Kevin had nothing to do with the recruitment of Jerryd Bayless and simply babysat Jennings for a couple of months until he signed his LOI. Mike Decourcy had a great article on this on tsn.com this week. Anyone who thinks high schoolers going to Europe is going to become widespread is fooling themselves. |
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07-18-2008, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude I heard they play more veterans than Fulmer over there, that he can expect a hefty 10 minutes a game. I'd say roughing it through a couple semesters of 12 physical education credits and staying directly in scout's consciousness may be a better deal than going overseas. Besides, I'm not sure what the appeal is for any club team over there to have the best American 18-19 year old for one year. | Correct. You're not going to see the really elite EuroLeague teams bidding on American high schoolers. |
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