Who would you say is the best coach in the NCAAM Basketball?

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07

You really think Gary Williams is a better coach?

absolutely. Taking Maryland to multiple Final Fours and having them contend as often as they have is far better than the choke jobs Roy Williams has done with Kansas and UNC. Especially the talent laden teams that Roy has coached. And before anyone says something about getting that talent there, it's far easier to get talent to Lawrence and Chapel Hill than it is to bring someone into College Park.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

absolutely. Taking Maryland to multiple Final Fours and having them contend as often as they have is far better than the choke jobs Roy Williams has done with Kansas and UNC. Especially the talent laden teams that Roy has coached. And before anyone says something about getting that talent there, it's far easier to get talent to Lawrence and Chapel Hill than it is to bring someone into College Park.

Roy is a choke machine like his mentor. I'm with you, that makes this at least a viable argument. Roy might have a slight edge, but it's not a given.
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[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

Roy is a choke machine like his mentor. I'm with you, that makes this at least a viable argument. Roy might have a slight edge, but it's not a given.
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I believe that if Gary is at Kansas/UNC and Roy winds up at Maryland (let's ignore the BC and OSU Gary days), it wouldn't be a question. Roy wouldn't even enter the equation.

[NCGatorBait]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

absolutely. Taking Maryland to multiple Final Fours and having them contend as often as they have is far better than the choke jobs Roy Williams has done with Kansas and UNC. Especially the talent laden teams that Roy has coached. And before anyone says something about getting that talent there, it's far easier to get talent to Lawrence and Chapel Hill than it is to bring someone into College Park.

wouldnt you rather choke in the big game..than just contend?? It's a crap shoot once you make the Final Four.

[Ill Will Vol 865]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

absolutely. Taking Maryland to multiple Final Fours and having them contend as often as they have is far better than the choke jobs Roy Williams has done with Kansas and UNC. Especially the talent laden teams that Roy has coached. And before anyone says something about getting that talent there, it's far easier to get talent to Lawrence and Chapel Hill than it is to bring someone into College Park.

Gary Williams = 585 career victories in 29 seasons overall
Roy Williams = 524 wins in 19 seasons, a win percentage that is fourth-best in history.

Both have National Titles and multiply final four appearances. Not taking anything away from Gary but Roy is a better coach.

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by NCGatorBait

wouldnt you rather choke in the big game..than just contend?? It's a crap shoot once you make the Final Four.

Last time I checked, Gary has just as many national titles. I really hate this "crapshoot" idea. Everyone comes up with that excuse for every sport when their favorite/best team doesn't win.

If Gary's at UNC, he'd have 3 or 4 titles by now. But he loves his alma mater even more than Roy loves his.

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by Ill Will Vol 865

Gary Williams = 585 career victories in 29 seasons overall
Roy Williams = 524 wins in 19 seasons, a win percentage that is fourth-best in history.

Both have National Titles and multiply final four appearances. Not taking anything away from Gary but Roy is a better coach.

but again one had the luxury of coaching in two of the most tradition laden programs in the country. The other took over for a team still reeling from the death of Bias 3 years prior and then got railed with NCAA sanctions from the previous coach.

[NCGatorBait]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

Last time I checked, Gary has just as many national titles. I really hate this "crapshoot" idea. Everyone comes up with that excuse for every sport when their favorite/best team doesn't win.

If Gary's at UNC, he'd have 3 or 4 titles by now. But he loves his alma mater even more than Roy loves his.

You just dont know that..Gary may not have won any at UNC..and come on..when you reach the Final Four any of those teams can win..it is a crapshoot.

[NCGatorBait]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

but again one had the luxury of coaching in two of the most tradition laden programs in the country. The other took over for a team still reeling from the death of Bias 3 years prior and then got railed with NCAA sanctions from the previous coach.

Same for Roy at KU

[Ill Will Vol 865]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

but again one had the luxury of coaching in two of the most tradition laden programs in the country. The other took over for a team still reeling from the death of Bias 3 years prior and then got railed with NCAA sanctions from the previous coach.

well Roy williams took over a pitiful program in North Carolina in 2003 he replaced Matt Doherty, when it was all that doherty could do to take them to the NIT. Then in April of 2005 Carolina wins a national title......

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by Ill Will Vol 865

well Ray williams took over a pitiful program in North Carolina in 2003 he replaced Matt Doherty, when it was all that doherty could do to take them to the NIT. Then in April of 2005 Carolina wins a national title......

a pitiful program? Are you delusional?

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by NCGatorBait

Same for Roy at KU

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the restrictions on MD a lot more stringent?

Also come on, is it easier to rebuild MD or KU? Be honest.

[NCGatorBait]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the restrictions on MD a lot more stringent?

Also come on, is it easier to rebuild MD or KU? Be honest.

Ofcourse it is....and Gary is a very good coach..he just hasn't done anything since his title.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by Ill Will Vol 865

well Roy williams took over a pitiful program in North Carolina in 2003 he replaced Matt Doherty, when it was all that doherty could do to take them to the NIT. Then in April of 2005 Carolina wins a national title......

whose recruits did Ray (sic) win with?

Favorable comparison to Doherty is hardly a ringing endorsement.
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[Ill Will Vol 865]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

a pitiful program? Are you delusional?

no i am not delusional if you are a carolina fan those few years are years you never wanna remember, kinda of like the 2005 football season when UT football went 5-6 and no bowling....erase from the memory.