10/5 Coaches Poll and 10/5 AP Poll

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Here's this week's coaches poll:

RK TEAM RECORD PTS PREV
1 Florida State (44) 5-0 1,505 2
2 Auburn (16) 5-0 1,477 5
3 Baylor (1) 5-0 1,372 6
4 Ole Miss 5-0 1,308 11
5 Notre Dame 5-0 1,269 8
6 Mississippi State 5-0 1,237 14
7 Alabama 4-1 1,065 1
8 Michigan State 4-1 1,062 10
9 Oklahoma 4-1 929 3
10 Georgia 4-1 898 12
11 Oregon 4-1 897 4
12 TCU 4-0 865 25
13 Arizona 5-0 743 NR
14 Texas A&M 5-1 706 7
15 Ohio State 4-1 645 18
16 Kansas State 4-1 567 22
17 UCLA 4-1 483 9
18 Oklahoma State 4-1 479 23
19 East Carolina 4-1 451 21
20 Arizona State 4-1 354 24
21 Nebraska 5-1 261 17
22 Stanford 3-2 241 13
23 Georgia Tech 5-0 240 NR
24 Missouri 4-1 182 NR
25 Clemson 3-2 138 NR


Dropped from rankings: LSU 15, Wisconsin 16, BYU 19, USC 20


Others receiving votes: Marshall 98, Utah 80, LSU 75, Louisville 36, Wisconsin 36, USC 28, BYU 16, Minnesota 13, Duke 12, Washington 12, Kentucky 11, West Virginia 8, Iowa 6, Arkansas 6, Memphis 5, California 4, Penn State 3, Rutgers 2
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And here's this week's AP Poll:



RK TEAM RECORD PTS PREV
1 Florida State (35) 5-0 1,461 1
2 Auburn (23) 5-0 1,459 5
3 Mississippi State (2) 5-0 1,320 12
3 Ole Miss 5-0 1,320 11
5 Baylor 5-0 1,258 7
6 Notre Dame 5-0 1,186 9
7 Alabama 4-1 1,060 3
8 Michigan State 4-1 981 10
9 TCU 4-0 979 25
10 Arizona 5-0 951 NR
11 Oklahoma 4-1 904 4
12 Oregon 4-1 888 2
13 Georgia 4-1 854 13
14 Texas A&M 5-1 731 6
15 Ohio State 4-1 534 20
16 Oklahoma State 4-1 527 21
17 Kansas State 4-1 486 23
18 UCLA 4-1 460 8
19 East Carolina 4-1 344 22
20 Arizona State 4-1 325 NR
21 Nebraska 5-1 283 19
22 Georgia Tech 5-0 235 NR
23 Missouri 4-1 212 24
24 Utah 4-1 206 NR
25 Stanford 3-2 143 14



Dropped from rankings: LSU 15, USC 16, Wisconsin 17, BYU 18



Others receiving votes: Clemson 92, Marshall 78, USC 61, Louisville 36, LSU 35, BYU 26, West Virginia 18, Arkansas 14, Wisconsin 7, California 6, Penn State 5, Rutgers 4, Kentucky 4, North Dakota State 3, Minnesota 2, South Carolina 1, Virginia 1
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I think Ole Miss and MSU will both drop games before the end of the season and the Egg Bowl will no longer be for playoff contention.

The Iron Bowl will definitely be a "winner gets a playoff spot" game though.
 
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Don't know how to feel about the AP this week...I don't think I've ever seen a team jump from unranked to top 10 in a single week, off a single game.

Same with one jumping from 25 to 9 in a single week just off one game.


Almost makes me wonder if they're putting too much emphasis/preference on the undefeated aspect in that poll, at this point in the season (it is October).
 
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Aesius said:
I think Ole Miss and MSU will both drop games before the end of the season and the Egg Bowl will no longer be for playoff contention.

The Iron Bowl will definitely be a "winner gets a playoff spot" game though.
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I think the egg bowl could potentially be for a 3 way tie. Loser finishes 4th. I don't see the west having an outright champion.
 
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So 5 SEC teams in the coaches poll's top 10; 7 SEC teams in its overall top 25.

And 3 SEC teams in AP poll's top 4 teams; 4 SEC teams in the poll's top 10; 7 SEC teams in the poll's top 25.
 
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AP Poll looks more like what things should than the coaches poll IMO. It may be simple-minded but my thinking is if my records better than yours, we play in the same conference and I beat you straight up I should be ranked higher for the time being.

Baylor and ND have done very little to impress me. A pretty weak Texas team made Baylor look human yesterday.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Don't know how to feel about the AP this week...I don't think I've ever seen a team jump from unranked to top 10 in a single week, off a single game.

Same with one jumping from 25 to 9 in a single week just off one game.


Almost makes me wonder if they're putting too much emphasis/preference on the undefeated aspect in that poll, at this point in the season (it is October).
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Money. Dropping Arizona into that position means more publicity, more TV time, commercials, the whole nine yards with them playing USC on the late game. Same with TCU since they have Baylor coming up this weekend and that's going to be a huge game.

Big marketing money this year is on the Big 12, PAC 12 and the SEC. Nobody gives a flip about the Big 10 or the ACC since most of them aren't ranked and outside of FSU fans, nobody wants to watch them beat up on more cupcake teams.

Even with the "unbiased" AP poll, it can be manipulated to increase revenues.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Don't know how to feel about the AP this week...I don't think I've ever seen a team jump from unranked to top 10 in a single week, off a single game.

Same with one jumping from 25 to 9 in a single week just off one game.


Almost makes me wonder if they're putting too much emphasis/preference on the undefeated aspect in that poll, at this point in the season (it is October).
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Why shouldn't Arizona be ranked 10th?
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
AP Poll looks more like what things should than the coaches poll IMO. It may be simple-minded but my thinking is if my records better than yours, we play in the same conference and I beat you straight up I should be ranked higher for the time being.

Baylor and ND have done very little to impress me. A pretty weak Texas team made Baylor look human yesterday.
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Texas almost beat UCLA on the road, so I'm not sure how weak they are. Didn't Baylor win by 3 TDs in Austin? I don't think you can knock them for that game.
 
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I'm holding my breath on Baylor until they face a real opponent. Texas looked awful against Baylor and that wasn't because Baylor was playing lights out D, it's because this is probably the worst Texas team I've seen in 15 years, even worse than the 2010 team. TCU will be their first true test.

Still the ugliest top 5 in the history of top 5s.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Texas almost beat UCLA on the road, so I'm not sure how weak they are. Didn't Baylor win by 3 TDs in Austin? I don't think you can knock them for that game.
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I think you are overselling an inconsistent UCLA team. Texas is bad. UCLA isn't that great, I seem to recall them just scraping by Memphis.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
I'm holding my breath on Baylor until they face a real opponent. Texas looked awful against Baylor and that wasn't because Baylor was playing lights out D, it's because this is probably the worst Texas team I've seen in 15 years, even worse than the 2010 team. TCU will be their first true test.

Still the ugliest top 5 in the history of top 5s.
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They'll get pounded in Norman.
 
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The Frogs will come into Waco ready for payback. They had that game won last year if it wasn't for 2 pick 6's and a last second game-clinching INT on the goal line. Personally Ive got Frogs 2 td ahead of Baylor next week.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
I think you are overselling an inconsistent UCLA team. Texas is bad. UCLA isn't that great, I seem to recall them just scraping by Memphis.
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Ole miss scraped by Memphis too. And Memphis went to Cincinnati last night and ran Tubby's Bearcats off the field 41-14.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Texas almost beat UCLA on the road, so I'm not sure how weak they are. Didn't Baylor win by 3 TDs in Austin? I don't think you can knock them for that game.
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UCLA has had one impressive win and trailed the whole game and lost to Utah last night. They're not exactly setting the world on fire between struggling with UVA and Memphis.

The last two Texas teams haven't been the same ole Texas and CCS has kicked 9 guys off since fall camp, they're playing shorthanded. Baylor was avg like 58 PPG and scored half that. The way BYU beat Texas is the way I'd expect Baylor to beat them.
 
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