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07-23-2012, 11:07 PM
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#16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hardwood_fanatic Yeah, regardless of the first win since the Mayflower came over, UT can still talk.
But in true fashion, gotta get my troll on.
Matt Roark > Eric Berry. | Except of course Berry was two years gone by Roark's "legendary" game
So if you meant off the wall, irrational troll, then proceed |
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07-24-2012, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TrueOrange Come on, I have to tell you guys this too?...
Vacated, not forfeited. Means you guys still have to count the loss, just they can't count the win | I thought it became a no contest, with the game expunged from both record books. Not saying you're wrong, but it's weird to say one team doesn't deserve a win, because of something they did, and not remove the other team's loss. |
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07-24-2012, 01:22 AM
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#18 (permalink)
| | Senior Member | If this Wiki write-up has the facts straight, then what TrueOrange said is true when regular season games are vacated - the loss remains. But, since it was a postseason game, UT and UK do pick up the wins. It's not 100% clear though. It specifically says the loss remains for a regular season game but not a tournament game and does not mention bowls. But, in the opening paragraph, it links bowls with tournament games and says there's a difference between the treatment of regular season games and the treatment of bowls or tournament games. Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Vacated victories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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07-24-2012, 06:50 AM
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| Apparently someones sarcasm meter is broken. |
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07-24-2012, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardwood_fanatic Apparently someones sarcasm meter is broken. | Hate when that happens Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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07-24-2012, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardwood_fanatic Kentucky, the new 1999 outback bowl champion. Tim Couch, MVP.  | Almost like a veteran getting his medal decades after his act of valor. Congrads on a hard fought win that it took the scholars a while to get right. Better late than never. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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07-24-2012, 07:01 AM
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| Auburn fans still think the 2004 NC is theirs since USC had it vacated |
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07-24-2012, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CountVolcula Kentucky couldn't beat PSU with a 100 ft titanium dildo | James Franklin resembles this message. |
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07-24-2012, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ukvols If this Wiki write-up has the facts straight, then what TrueOrange said is true when regular season games are vacated - the loss remains. But, since it was a postseason game, UT and UK do pick up the wins. It's not 100% clear though. It specifically says the loss remains for a regular season game but not a tournament game and does not mention bowls. But, in the opening paragraph, it links bowls with tournament games and says there's a difference between the treatment of regular season games and the treatment of bowls or tournament games.
| The NCAA doesn't count bowls as tournament games. So bowl losses still count. |
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07-24-2012, 09:04 AM
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#25 (permalink)
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| So what do you do with the 2005 Ohio State-Penn State game?
Both schools had to vacate wins from that season. |
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07-24-2012, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Wright So what do you do with the 2005 Ohio State-Penn State game?
Both schools had to vacate wins from that season. | You just said it. The team that got the win no longer does. It doesnt count as losses when a team gets a win vacated. I remember this from the Antonio Langham incident at Bama when they vacated the one seasons wins. Some Tennessee fans thought we broke beat them in between that huge Im wanting to say 11 year win streak. Then it was reported and explained that teams that lost to Bama that year still had losses but Bama just didn't get to count any of their wins. Odd I know. |
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07-24-2012, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Wright So what do you do with the 2005 Ohio State-Penn State game?
Both schools had to vacate wins from that season. | 05 or 2010? |
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07-24-2012, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Wright So what do you do with the 2005 Ohio State-Penn State game?
Both schools had to vacate wins from that season. | The only thing you do with that one is...................laugh sir.....just laugh 
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07-24-2012, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DeepSpringsVol You just said it. The team that got the win no longer does. It doesnt count as losses when a team gets a win vacated. I remember this from the Antonio Langham incident at Bama when they vacated the one seasons wins. Some Tennessee fans thought we broke beat them in between that huge Im wanting to say 11 year win streak. Then it was reported and explained that teams that lost to Bama that year still had losses but Bama just didn't get to count any of their wins. Odd I know. | Do you mean the 1993 tie-game?
That one Alabama actually (later) forfeited |
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07-24-2012, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TrueOrange 05 or 2010? | You're right, it was 2010.
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