There's not a penalty to harsh for PSU!

[TXA&M07]

Originally Posted by vollygirl

What does it do for the victims and families if you take the football program down?

Makes the" burn em at the stake" crowd feel warm and fuzzy and offers them a sense of accomplishment.

[CountVolcula]

Originally Posted by vollygirl

What does it do for the victims and families if you take the football program down?

It is the sacrificial lamb. It is to make sure that other institutions understand that the athletic departments are not the be all/end all. That they are not gods that can exonerate themselves from a moral and ethical responsibility to do whats right because they bring in millions of dollars and entertain the masses.

[vollygirl]

Originally Posted by CountVolcula

It is the sacrificial lamb. It is to make sure that other institutions understand that the athletic departments are not the be all/end all. That they are not gods that can exonerate themselves from a moral and ethical responsibility to do whats right because they bring in millions of dollars and entertain the masses.

I'm having a hard time feeling like the victims wouldn't be victimized further from the fall out of something like that. Start with punishment for every individual involved and go from there.

I don't think other institutions need this lesson.

[knucklehead_vol]

Originally Posted by TXA&M07

Makes the" burn em at the stake" crowd feel warm and fuzzy and offers them a sense of accomplishment.

I am sure all of us wish this never happened. Stop acting like people are glad this happened to get one over on Paterno and Penn State.

[CountVolcula]

Originally Posted by vollygirl

I'm having a hard time feeling like the victims wouldn't be victimized further from the fall out of something like that. Start with punishment for every individual involved and go from there.

I don't think other institutions need this lesson.

Victimized how?

By not being able to see Penn St play football on T.V.?

[TXA&M07]

Originally Posted by knucklehead_vol

I am sure all of us wish this never happened. Stop acting like people are glad this happened to get one over on Paterno and Penn State.

I sincerely apologize if that's how I'm coming off. I don't think this is a malicious attempt to end PSU football purely because they are "good at the game".

I understand no one in their right mind would wish this on any one or any institution.

My point is, the punishment phase in regards to their football program should be done.

[TXA&M07]

Originally Posted by CountVolcula

Victimized how?

By not being able to see Penn St play football on T.V.?

Every Saturday without football would be a constant reminder of all of this to everyone. It would have the attention of the PSU family all season long and the national attention as ESPN would undoubtedly capatilize on the opportunity to carry the story further.

[vollygirl]

Originally Posted by CountVolcula

Victimized how?

By not being able to see Penn St play football on T.V.?

Are you serious?

[CountVolcula]

Originally Posted by TXA&M07

Every Saturday without football would be a constant reminder of all of this to everyone. It would have the attention of the PSU family all season long and the national attention as ESPN would undoubtedly capatilize on the opportunity to carry the story further.

I dont buy this

Watching them play, like nothing happened, is a slap in the face to anyone that has been a victim of child molestation

Plus, everytime the play for the next 20 years, its going to be brought up. This will never go away

[CountVolcula]

Originally Posted by vollygirl

Are you serious?

Sorry Volly, I get what you are saying

The backlash from rabid fans could be rather harsh

[vollygirl]

Originally Posted by CountVolcula

Sorry Volly, I get what you are saying

The backlash from rabid fans could be rather harsh

I think the people involved should be punished to the absolute fullest extent of the law. Anybody and everybody that had anything to do with letting this go on. And that includes the janitor that saw it and didn't go to the police, and the AD and the president of the university.

I don't think it would be just rabid fans being harsh. I think casual fans, students, parents of current students, etc, would keep it alive and at some point, the blame for this will try to be placed on the victims. (I can't figure out how to word exactly what I'm trying to say.)

[Spartacavolus]

bringing the program down would add victims unnecessarily. Jobs would be lost. Careers would end. More lawsuits would ensue. And those people will have had nothing to do with this crap.

Get every single person involved and **** up their lives as much as possible. Level the locker room. Level the statue. Take every dime possible from the endowment and get it to the victims. Then use football money each year to support various groups for victims.

I understand the view that some have on here about bringing it down, but a lot of innocent people would be added to the victim list.

[VolBeef88]

Originally Posted by vollygirl

What does it do for the victims and families if you take the football program down?

What does it do for the victims if you put a guy in prison? One of the main reasons for stiff punishment is to send a message.
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[VolBeef88]

Originally Posted by vollygirl

I think the people involved should be punished to the absolute fullest extent of the law. Anybody and everybody that had anything to do with letting this go on. And that includes the janitor that saw it and didn't go to the police, and the AD and the president of the university.

I don't think it would be just rabid fans being harsh. I think casual fans, students, parents of current students, etc, would keep it alive and at some point, the blame for this will try to be placed on the victims. (I can't figure out how to word exactly what I'm trying to say.)

The issue is this. We're not talking about random employees of PSU. We're talking THE TOP 4 of PSU. The leaders aka THE PSU itself. A VERY stiff punishment should be dealt to them.
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[VolBeef88]

Originally Posted by TXA&M07

Every Saturday without football would be a constant reminder of all of this to everyone. It would have the attention of the PSU family all season long and the national attention as ESPN would undoubtedly capatilize on the opportunity to carry the story further.

Aggie, you really need some self reflection. I'm very hard core but you are just short of Matt Millon.
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