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Old 07-12-2012, 07:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Since the president and vice-president were deemed culpable, why isn't the discussion to shut down the University or AD? Why stop with football penalties?

Ftr, TX is doing a fine job of capturing my thoughts on this.
You raise a good point. This really isn't a football matter as much as a school matter. The people that really need to be stepping in aren't the NCAA it's the Pennsylvania state government.
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I'm sure there are civil suits coming soon. I actually do get 07's point though. I'm not sure the NCAA can do much of anything.
Civil suits help the specific victims. 07's question was what the university could do to help others. I say yes, they need to do that but it cannot be self instituted and self run, it needs to be paid to the people who already are trying to do so.

Can the NCAA do anything? I don't know. Should the NCAA do anything? If they absolve themselves completely, it destroys what little external credibility they have now.
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You raise a good point. This really isn't a football matter as much as a school matter. The people that really need to be stepping in aren't the NCAA it's the Pennsylvania state government.
I would argue that it had everything to do with the Football program


If Sandusky would have been a janitor, would they have protected him then?
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You raise a good point. This really isn't a football matter as much as a school matter. The people that really need to be stepping in aren't the NCAA it's the Pennsylvania state government.
I'd be fine with it if they did.
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Let the record show however that I am more of an advocate if rising from the ashes to better a society than I am wallering in a lingering state of desolation all the while counting down the seconds until things can finally start to attempt to get back to normal.

Act now. Their first step towards their future after all this, will determine the legacy of that University.
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Ive got news for you. There is no high road in this situation and Wtf is wrong is that the offense was so egregious and systemic they shouldn't get to self impose anything.
You're exactly right. Anyone saying different should really check themselves.
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I would argue that it had everything to do with the Football program


If Sandusky would have been a janitor, would they have protected him then?
You're EXACTLY right.
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Let the record show however that I am more of an advocate if rising from the ashes to better a society than I am wallering in a lingering state of desolation all the while counting down the seconds until things can finally start to attempt to get back to normal.

Act now. Their first step towards their future after all this, will determine the legacy of that University.
You're a good man. Your last sentence is spot on. The University and the State of Pennsylvania will determine their legacy.
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Oh no no no, they'll be just like Havard and Yale and Columbia and Brown......
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You raise a good point. This really isn't a football matter as much as a school matter. The people that really need to be stepping in aren't the NCAA it's the Pennsylvania state government.
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What does it do for the victims and families if you take the football program down?
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