lol @ Kentucky fans buying season tickets

[Hardwood_fanatic]

Originally Posted by ukvols

When did huge non-conference home games stop providing exposure and cash?

It didn't, but it doesn't provide as much exposure, or as much cash.

[Hardwood_fanatic]

And FYI, I'm not defending this schedule, or its validity. Just stating the reasons why the way it is.

[Vol_51]

Originally Posted by Hardwood_fanatic

UT vs any of those schools in a home & home is 2nd page news compared to UK vs Baylor in Cowboy stadium, or MSU vs UNC on a carrier. Which would Sportscenter lead with? It really isn't a question.

Also, I would point out that even though UT has played those schools, yes they are still considerably behind. Had Pearl not fallen to the evil BBQ ways, his last season was still a slide into mediocrity.

I don't say this to boast or sound arrogant, but UT really isn't in the position to schedule the neutral site games like UK can. UNC, Duke, etc. would politely turn you down if you requested to play them at the Garden. UK has the bargaining power to make spectacles like that happen, UT does not.

Well since we don't want to play games on campus anymore. Lets more UK, UNC, Duke, Ect into their own pro league, pay the players, and play all their games off campus.

This is still COLLEGE basketball. Games should be play at COLLEGES, I dont give a **** if youre the first or 32nd story on sportscenter. College basketball is being ruined between the One and Done rule, and this offcampus bull****

[Hardwood_fanatic]

Originally Posted by Vol_51

Well since we don't want to play games on campus anymore. Lets more UK, UNC, Duke, Ect into their own pro league, pay the players, and play all their games off campus.

This is still COLLEGE basketball. Games should be play at COLLEGES, I dont give a **** if youre the first or 32nd story on sportscenter. College basketball is being ruined between the One and Done rule, and this offcampus bull****

Easy Champ, put down the bottle. Don't make it so personal.

[ukvols]

Originally Posted by Hardwood_fanatic

UT vs any of those schools in a home & home is 2nd page news compared to UK vs Baylor in Cowboy stadium, or MSU vs UNC on a carrier. Which would Sportscenter lead with? It really isn't a question.

Also, I would point out that even though UT has played those schools, yes they are still considerably behind. Had Pearl not fallen to the evil BBQ ways, his last season was still a slide into mediocrity.

I don't say this to boast or sound arrogant, but UT really isn't in the position to schedule the neutral site games like UK can. UNC, Duke, etc. would politely turn you down if you requested to play them at the Garden. UK has the bargaining power to make spectacles like that happen, UT does not.

UT isn't the best comparison to make my point.

I would rather watch UK play Duke at either Rupp or Cameron than MSG, a Carrier, or Cowboy Stadium.

[ukvols]

Originally Posted by Hardwood_fanatic

It didn't, but it doesn't provide as much exposure, or as much cash.

When they play at a neutral site, they have to split the gate with the opponent and the site itself. And, either site will make for a national TV draw. And, on a carrier, there pretty much are no gate receipts at all. Also, you obviously don't have to fly the team to a home game.

Perhaps I'm off base, but it seems like UK would make more money with a home and home with Duke than two games at MSG, for example.

And, I'm not saying UK is dumb for making this schedule. I'm only commenting on what the season-ticket holders would prefer.

Since I'm not a UK season-ticket holder, I've already posted way too many times in this thread. Not sure why I care. It's not my schedule.

[Hardwood_fanatic]

Originally Posted by ukvols

When they play at a neutral site, they have to split the gate with the opponent and the site itself. And, either site will make for a national TV draw. And, on a carrier, there pretty much are no gate receipts at all. Also, you obviously don't have to fly the team to a home game.

Perhaps I'm off base, but it seems like UK would make more money with a home and home with Duke than two games at MSG, for example.

And, I'm not saying UK is dumb for making this schedule. I'm only commenting on what the season-ticket holders would prefer.

Since I'm not a UK season-ticket holder, I've already posted way too many times in this thread. Not sure why I care. It's not my schedule.

When I mention the word exposure, I am referencing "special" exposure to recruits and the nation, not just the number of eyes that see the game. Recruits (and their families) look at spectacles like the Carrier Classic, or UK at the Cowboy Stadium, and remember it, while a home/home will generally fade away. It isn't just exposure, but the "type" of exposure.

As for the monetary side of things I may be off base as well, but I think the marketing aspect and the Network deals are slightly more lucrative for the network when it isn't a conference affiliated game.

[dukes_of_maggard]

Plus let us not forget this is a young team, they need some time to gel. If Cal had all his guys back he'd be more likely to schedule the Spurs and Lakers at home...but he doesn't and he wants to maintain seed integrity for the tournament (the only thing that matters anyway).

Not for nothing but if you look at the teams they’re playing at home they’re not RPI killers, they’re teams expected to win weaker conferences, not like a Mississippi Valley State or something.

[Shaun1985]

Originally Posted by Hardwood_fanatic

UT vs any of those schools in a home & home is 2nd page news compared to UK vs Baylor in Cowboy stadium, or MSU vs UNC on a carrier. Which would Sportscenter lead with? It really isn't a question.

Also, I would point out that even though UT has played those schools, yes they are still considerably behind. Had Pearl not fallen to the evil BBQ ways, his last season was still a slide into mediocrity.

I don't say this to boast or sound arrogant, but UT really isn't in the position to schedule the neutral site games like UK can. UNC, Duke, etc. would politely turn you down if you requested to play them at the Garden. UK has the bargaining power to make spectacles like that happen, UT does not.

I agree with your post. The truth sucks but it's 100% accurate. Pearl would not have done much last year, that's obvious. We would have been an average team with or without him. I still debate if the BBQ incident, before being made public, had something to do with him as a coach. He seemed very different and it possible got the best of him. He also missed out on a ton of key pieces to keep things moving forward but that's a whole other topic.

I understand that times are changing with college basketball. People are playing on football fields, ships, and other odd places but as a fan, it would still upset me to see that schedule. Kentucky fans probably travel better than anyone else in the country, just won a national title, pack Rupp even during practices, pay ridiculous ticket prices and then get that schedule lol.

I'm not lobbying for UK fans to burn Rupp down or anything, I just found it odd.

[Shaun1985]

Originally Posted by Vol_51

Well since we don't want to play games on campus anymore. Lets more UK, UNC, Duke, Ect into their own pro league, pay the players, and play all their games off campus.

This is still COLLEGE basketball. Games should be play at COLLEGES, I dont give a **** if youre the first or 32nd story on sportscenter. College basketball is being ruined between the One and Done rule, and this offcampus bull****

I for sure agree with you. I hate what college basketball is becomming but playing off campus at these sites is pretty much our football black jersey lol. Looking cool and being different = recruiting advantage. The home / away is what makes it fun IMO. If I were UK and even being a UT fan, I'd LOVE to play Duke at Cameron Indoor and would love to see them in TBA. It sucks but it's reality.

[ukvols]

Originally Posted by dukes_of_maggard

Plus let us not forget this is a young team, they need some time to gel. If Cal had all his guys back he'd be more likely to schedule the Spurs and Lakers at home...but he doesn't and he wants to maintain seed integrity for the tournament (the only thing that matters anyway).

Not for nothing but if you look at the teams they’re playing at home they’re not RPI killers, they’re teams expected to win weaker conferences, not like a Mississippi Valley State or something.

If his concern is having a young team, I'd think he'd rather play a heavyweight at home than at a neutral site.
And, it definitely helps to play those small-conference winners instead of MVSU, for example. It's still a cupcake, just with a little better taste to it, and it can even help the RPI a little.

[Hardwood_fanatic]

Originally Posted by Shaun1985

I agree with your post. The truth sucks but it's 100% accurate. Pearl would not have done much last year, that's obvious. We would have been an average team with or without him. I still debate if the BBQ incident, before being made public, had something to do with him as a coach. He seemed very different and it possible got the best of him. He also missed out on a ton of key pieces to keep things moving forward but that's a whole other topic.

I understand that times are changing with college basketball. People are playing on football fields, ships, and other odd places but as a fan, it would still upset me to see that schedule. Kentucky fans probably travel better than anyone else in the country, just won a national title, pack Rupp even during practices, pay ridiculous ticket prices and then get that schedule lol.

I'm not lobbying for UK fans to burn Rupp down or anything, I just found it odd.

It saddens me as well, no doubt about that. But it is what it is at this point.

[Brian McCat]

You're arguing about who Kentucky plays in December, as if it matters. All that matters is who Kentucky plays/ beats in March/April.

[terrypedigo]

Do they think its Basketball season.

[dukes_of_maggard]

Originally Posted by terrypedigo

Do they think its Basketball season.

we didn't start this thread bruh