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06-23-2012, 02:46 PM
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#76 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by TrueOrange Most of these kids (think college campuses) are already drinking as is, and to add to that, the drinking age used to be 18 until....believe the change came in the 70s or 80s
But one of the things with alcohol is that there's also a bit of an...I'm not sure how to explain this correctly, but an experience/learning factor (with regards to one's tolerance). Someone who hasn't had any experience with it at all, well they're really almost about just as likely to overdose on or not know when to stop with it whether they're 21 or not...it might well be more a case of "kids need to be better educated on the positives and negatives of the matter"
Also there's a bit of the whole "taboo" factor and a relative appeal factor because "you're not supposed to do it (yet)" | I definitely concede the notion less would drink because they wouldn't be breaking the law, which adds to their ego/popularity/etc
I understand the AoC is 16 most places, I just personally think that is too low. |
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06-23-2012, 02:47 PM
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If it wasn't illegal for 16 year olds to have sex in most states then we would have an even more insane number of pregnant high schoolers and stupid mothers/fathers raising multiple kids.
| Good point. But I don't think it is illegal, accept for a person of legal age to have sex with someone who is not. |
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06-23-2012, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudleys87 Now on suicide watch, One couldnt guess how this will end. | He should have done it while he was on out on bail .. did the idiot really think he would beat the rap ? |
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06-23-2012, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by joeydupree Good point. But I don't think it is illegal, accept for a person of legal age to have sex with someone who is not. | There's most often an age range, but yeah it's not exactly just a simple "sex below age X is illegal"
Some states though have some odd laws on the matter (GA, for example, I think, has some older, more archaic that has/can put away 15 (or so) year olds in the past) |
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06-23-2012, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Henley The military get exemptions and can drink at 18. | Negative.
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Originally Posted by chatt-townVOL I have not sat down and read Gould's works or Dawkin's works...It's the uneducated kids running around these days trying to convince other kids...That's why I choose to pursue attacking popular perceptions... | |
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06-23-2012, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Henley And you see nothing wrong with that? | I see something terribly wrong with it if she was not rationally-mature enough to actually give consent. If she was, though, then I see nothing wrong with it. This would be a case where having a handful of psychological interviews from a handful of psychologists would not just be a "check-the-box" procedure (where it would pretty much be a check-the-box procedure for almost everyone under the age of 14).
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Originally Posted by chatt-townVOL I have not sat down and read Gould's works or Dawkin's works...It's the uneducated kids running around these days trying to convince other kids...That's why I choose to pursue attacking popular perceptions... | |
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06-23-2012, 03:35 PM
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(GA, for example, I think, has some older, more archaic that has/can put away 15 (or so) year olds in the past)
| I've seen it first hand in GA. |
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06-23-2012, 03:43 PM
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| | VN GURU | I do think the age of consent should be lowered to 16.
Having 18-19 yr olds registering as sex offenders because their 17 yr old girlfriend's mom doesn't like them, doesn't seem right to me. |
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06-23-2012, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Henley The military get exemptions and can drink at 18. If you aren't serving, why wouldn't you want 3 more years of maturity behind the dollar buying alcohol at will?
Also in the AoC, does anyone here, who has children, feel the same way? |  |
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06-23-2012, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 508mikey He should have done it while he was on out on bail .. did the idiot really think he would beat the rap ? | He thinks he did nothing wrong. Why wouldn't he?
Watching his facial expressions and what I've heard from him, it seems like he believes he did nothing wrong.
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06-23-2012, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by therealUT I see something terribly wrong with it if she was not rationally-mature enough to actually give consent. If she was, though, then I see nothing wrong with it. This would be a case where having a handful of psychological interviews from a handful of psychologists would not just be a "check-the-box" procedure (where it would pretty much be a check-the-box procedure for almost everyone under the age of 14). | The upshot is that you would live in a world in which a man who rapes a child would get to defend himself by claiming that it was an honest mistake, that he thought the kid was mature enough to handle it. The trial would revolve around the child's capacity for sex, not whether the MF was guilty of it.
Perhaps you noticed that the boys Sandusky raped kept going back to him? Sandusky probably thought he was enjoying a series of consensual relationships. If the laws were written your way, that's exactly what he would have argued. |
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06-24-2012, 01:55 AM
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| | Just blame the flu | All I can say for this douche bag is don't drop soap. |
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06-24-2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by davethevol How is that? You have to be an absolute moron if you think Paterno was innocent in all of this. | Lol. |
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06-24-2012, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by #10_Ainge_#10 All I can say for this douche bag is don't drop soap. | I wonder if he will give consent
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06-24-2012, 04:53 PM
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| | Whoooooooah | Now give Penn State the death penalty to bring full justice. The students rioting after they fired that old fart for protecting a child predator showed how sick the culture of that school is. |
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