Strong arming the "Best 4 teams" BCS games?

[Daloth]

I just saw the first bit of PTI, and something Wilbon said made quite a bit of sense. He said the only way an agreement will be done on the BCS final 4 is if one side strong arms the other into submission on the whole "4 conference champs VS 4 best teams" situation.

My thought was, how would that really work? And would it work even?

If Slive came out with all the AD's of each SEC school and head coaches and said, "Either the NCAA and BCS adopt the 4 best teams policy or we will completely withdraw from both institutions and create our own league" would that work? Is there really any other form of "forcing" the league to adopt a policy?

And would you support a move like this?

(I think it's all a bit crazy, but I don't know that I could argue if it happened because with the fear in leagues like the B1G there may be no other way to agree on it than to go over their heads basically. But I think if we got another league or so to agree to it there is no way they could say no.)

[bamacheats]

College Football is getting really stupid really fast.

[GatorBill]

There has to be some sort of "comprimise wording" like:

"If there is a second team from the same conference that has fewer losses than the remaining conference champions..."


Then an 11-1 non Conference Winner would get in ahead of a 10-2 Conference Champion.

But if it sets up like

1)LSU 11-1
2)Bama 11-1
3)Michigan State 11-1
4)who cares 10-2

Then MSU would get the Championship game over the higher ranked Bama team. if the #3 and #4 teams were both 10-2, then Bama would get in.

EDIT: its pretty freaking simple.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by bamacheats

College Football is getting really stupid really fast.

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[TrueOrange]

Originally Posted by Daloth

I just saw the first bit of PTI, and something Wilbon said made quite a bit of sense. He said the only way an agreement will be done on the BCS final 4 is if one side strong arms the other into submission on the whole "4 conference champs VS 4 best teams" situation.

My thought was, how would that really work? And would it work even?

If Slive came out with all the AD's of each SEC school and head coaches and said, "Either the NCAA and BCS adopt the 4 best teams policy or we will completely withdraw from both institutions and create our own league" would that work? Is there really any other form of "forcing" the league to adopt a policy?

And would you support a move like this?

(I think it's all a bit crazy, but I don't know that I could argue if it happened because with the fear in leagues like the B1G there may be no other way to agree on it than to go over their heads basically. But I think if we got another league or so to agree to it there is no way they could say no.)

There's no way they could go "form their own league"

Among several other things, there's no way the presidents of the universities would ever agree to do such a thing

[Kingston Vol]

They could say they wouldn't play the teams from other leagues. Force them to play cupcake teams and lose money because of it.
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[vols-1]

All the SEC needs is 1vs 2.

[VolsSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Daloth

I just saw the first bit of PTI, and something Wilbon said made quite a bit of sense. He said the only way an agreement will be done on the BCS final 4 is if one side strong arms the other into submission on the whole "4 conference champs VS 4 best teams" situation.

My thought was, how would that really work? And would it work even?

If Slive came out with all the AD's of each SEC school and head coaches and said, "Either the NCAA and BCS adopt the 4 best teams policy or we will completely withdraw from both institutions and create our own league" would that work? Is there really any other form of "forcing" the league to adopt a policy?

And would you support a move like this?

(I think it's all a bit crazy, but I don't know that I could argue if it happened because with the fear in leagues like the B1G there may be no other way to agree on it than to go over their heads basically. But I think if we got another league or so to agree to it there is no way they could say no.)

Maybe the Michael Scott Paper Company... was a huge mistake. I should leave, I should go, and start my own paper company. That'll show 'em.

[Gramps]

It's quite simple if there is going to be a four team playoff it has to be the best four teams.
If it is not the playoffs are useless, imo.

They can use the same format they have been using for the BCS and the top 4 are in period.

[bamawriter]

The Big 10 has suddenly backed off the conference champs proposal:

B1G won't stop playoff it doesn't really want - Big Ten Blog - ESPN

They want a selection committee, but they are okay with the top 4 teams regardless of affiliation. It's a good day.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by Gramps

It's quite simple if there is going to be a four team playoff it has to be the best four teams.
If it is not the playoffs are useless, imo.

They can use the same format they have been using for the BCS and the top 4 are in period.

So there's no legitimacy to the idea that if you want to be the best team in the country, you should be the best team in your own conference, much less division, first?

[cd12]

and then there is Notre Dame....would somebody please force them into a conference!

[bamawriter]

Originally Posted by milohimself

So there's no legitimacy to the idea that if you want to be the best team in the country, you should be the best team in your own conference, much less division, first?

Of course that's legitimate. However, the best team in the conference or division is not always the champion.

[GatorBill]

Originally Posted by GatorBill

There has to be some sort of "comprimise wording" like:

"If there is a second team from the same conference that has fewer losses than the remaining conference champions..."


Then an 11-1 non Conference Winner would get in ahead of a 10-2 Conference Champion.

But if it sets up like

1)LSU 11-1
2)Bama 11-1
3)Michigan State 11-1
4)who cares 10-2

Then MSU would get the Championship game over the higher ranked Bama team. if the #3 and #4 teams were both 10-2, then Bama would get in.

EDIT: its pretty freaking simple.

Oh look, I quoted myself. Because this still makes the most sense. My apologies for quoting myself, but no apologies for being right, but I am.

[TUSKtimes]

Originally Posted by milohimself

So there's no legitimacy to the idea that if you want to be the best team in the country, you should be the best team in your own conference, much less division, first?

Legitimacy of a conference championship is in direct relation to what it eventually accomplishes. Often, not much.

How many times have you seen the two best teams, in the same conference, not play each other in a CCG?