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04-25-2012, 12:39 PM
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#61 (permalink)
| | All VOL !!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nashville, TN
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Originally Posted by VolBeef88 Exactly. I love how some wanna bash him and yet nation wide he is very well respected. Posted via VolNation Mobile | I for one don't bash anyone that was here during our great years. I am forever grateful for that stretch, and our national championship. |
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04-25-2012, 12:42 PM
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| | Stir Stick Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Knoxvegas
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Originally Posted by give_him 6 Lot of money for 3rd and Chavis. |  |
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04-25-2012, 12:45 PM
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| | Stir Stick Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Knoxvegas
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Originally Posted by bigorange OP, you're an AU, UA, and UT fan??
I didn't know that was possible...or legal!! | UT then Bama I can understand. But that other team? Really? I think I am going to puke.....
Edit: On second thought, having grown up in Bama, AU and UA is not possible, ethical, moral, or legal. You are obviously a troll. |
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04-25-2012, 12:48 PM
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| | Stir Stick Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Knoxvegas
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Originally Posted by Gramps If UT did not have 3rd and Chavis, how bad would Fulmers record be?
His defense won many ballgames at UT. | His defenses lost several big ones also.....I remember a 62 point trouncing in Gainesville. |
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04-25-2012, 02:08 PM
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| The Chief is a good guy. Every D-scheme have an Achillies Heel - even Saban's. Once the OC's figure it out they exploit it. Despite some posters' attempt to say otherwise, the Mustang and its variants was his at UT. Most of the 3rd and Chavis first downs came after using that scheme because we never seemed to have two physical CB's with speed on the field at the same time. The OC's would use more protection for the QB, run one side of the secondary down the field, draw the other side to the sideline with a WR or TE, and then send the slot on a deeper crossing or flag pattern over the middle of the field. Sometimes they sent the slot down the field or on a deep out pattern and had the WR do the crossing. Either way it would wind up a first down pass or TD. If the CB's could not mess the timing up or keep up, the safety was out of the picture and it was over.
Ultimately it was Fulmer's fault to even allow that D to be used. Everything else The Chief used or uses is excellent. |
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04-25-2012, 02:27 PM
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| | Senior Member | he should demand a lot more than $1.1 million from lsu---they have millions in profits and should pay at least $1.8 mil. |
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04-25-2012, 02:34 PM
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| | Fear The Fro Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Knoxville, TN
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| Chavis was the one guy I didn't want to see go after 08. LSU is very fortunate to have him. |
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04-25-2012, 02:43 PM
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| | Stir Stick Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Knoxvegas
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Originally Posted by Vols4us The Chief is a good guy. Every D-scheme have an Achillies Heel - even Saban's. Once the OC's figure it out they exploit it. Despite some posters' attempt to say otherwise, the Mustang and its variants was his at UT. Most of the 3rd and Chavis first downs came after using that scheme because we never seemed to have two physical CB's with speed on the field at the same time. The OC's would use more protection for the QB, run one side of the secondary down the field, draw the other side to the sideline with a WR or TE, and then send the slot on a deeper crossing or flag pattern over the middle of the field. Sometimes they sent the slot down the field or on a deep out pattern and had the WR do the crossing. Either way it would wind up a first down pass or TD. If the CB's could not mess the timing up or keep up, the safety was out of the picture and it was over. Ultimately it was Fulmer's fault to even allow that D to be used. Everything else The Chief used or uses is excellent. | I am confused. Was he the DC or not? If he was, he deserves the 3rd and Chavis. If he wasn't, then who was. I NEVER saw Fulmer calling defenses, a lot of dumbass offense, but never defenses. Either way, he isn't worth 1.1 mill. |
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04-25-2012, 07:42 PM
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| | 02Honda Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: An Ole Dirt Road by a tree
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Originally Posted by AstonRoyal As good as he is, I don't think he's worth that much. And I don't think he's a better defensive coordinator than Kirby Smart. | I would wait to see what he can do without Saban before I call him the best of the best.
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04-25-2012, 09:27 PM
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| | A coach with Grudentials! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dandridge TN
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Originally Posted by TNGlen His defenses lost several big ones also.....I remember a 62 point trouncing in Gainesville. | That 59-20 beatdown was partly huge talent dicrepency as well as UTs horrible offensive day putting defense in tough situations. Heck Eric Berry scored 6 of those 20 points for us. The entire team struggled that day. Even Eric missing on an end zone play earlier was one of Floridas 59. I cant play all that on the Chief. Now if you wanna blame Chief for the Bama game. No reason DJ Hall should have caught like 15 passes underneath for over 200 yards. Corners should have been instructed to press up after it was apparent that was what John Parker Wilsons intentions were that day. |
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04-25-2012, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudleys87 I would wait to see what he can do without Saban before I call him the best of the best. | Truth. Many of coordinators have gotten accolades under Saban then it all changes for said coach when they step out on their own. |
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04-25-2012, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bigorange OP, you're an AU, UA, and UT fan??
I didn't know that was possible...or legal!! |
Born in Knoxville. Moved to Alabama as kid. Like em all.
Got stuck with the user name by mistake, cause i like AU least of the 3.  |
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04-26-2012, 12:49 AM
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| | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Summer: Chattanooga; School year: St. Louis
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04-26-2012, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DeepSpringsVol Truth. Many of coordinators have gotten accolades under Saban then it all changes for said coach when they step out on their own. | And position coaches... |
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