Nerlin Noel's & ShabaZz Muhammad thread...

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by BigPapaCat

doubt it.

Apparently hardwood thinks so...

[LittleCat]

Why wouldn't you include Harrow? You have to imagine Cal got Harrow thinking about 2013 (when he can start playing).

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by BigPapaCat

Why wouldn't you include Harrow? You have to imagine Cal got Harrow thinking about 2013 (when he can start playing).

Because he was brought in last year, I get he didn't play, but he was brought in last year not this year.

As I said I admit if you're including harrow then this class is as good or probably better(if not including kanter) than the 2010 class.

[LittleCat]

I wouldn't consider a player who wasn't allowed to play part of the class/team, etc. Kanter, Harrow both fit in that category.

Poole can hardly be considered because he rarely played and obviously didn't fit in well having to take a backseat to the others. If I remember correctly, he was one of our first recruits and highly talked about...must have been frustrating for him not getting to play.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by BigPapaCat

I wouldn't consider a player who wasn't allowed to play part of the class/team, etc. Kanter, Harrow both fit in that category.

Poole can hardly be considered because he rarely played and obviously didn't fit in well having to take a backseat to the others. If I remember correctly, he was one of our first recruits and highly talked about...must have been frustrating for him not getting to play.

As I said, like with Poole, if you're looking at classes after the fact then sure it changes. But hey Noels my snap his leg and still go pro, poythress may drop out, and Cauley may go to jail for murder. My point, if you're gonna judge the 2010 class AFTER they've played, you have to do the same with the 2012 class.

That's not what I'm doing, I'm going strictly off those specific signing day recruiting classes. If you do that Poole is a 4*, amd not a bust, and kanter is a top 5 player. I'm not going by on court success, simply recruiting class rankings.

As I've said, if you're including harrow, and no kanter, then yes this class is better. My whole original point still remaining, it doesn't compare to those scary classes that produced scary good teams. This class is good, but not unbeatable.

[LittleCat]

No class is unbeatable. And of course we can't judge teams before we see them. It may turn out that this team gels together and has an incredible year. Or they could suck and have a sub-par year for Cal. Lots of talent, hard to predict. But looking back, if you had looked closely at the rosters, it was obvious Poole wasn't going to play much.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by BigPapaCat

No class is unbeatable. And of course we can't judge teams before we see them. It may turn out that this team gels together and has an incredible year. Or they could suck and have a sub-par year for Cal. Lots of talent, hard to predict. But looking back, if you had looked closely at the rosters, it was obvious Poole wasn't going to play much.

I don't know last years class scared me at the time, plus with Jones returning and millers progression they looked scary on paper. As of now, this team, not so much. As I've said, they'll be damn good im sure, but they don't scare me.

Poole could've played if he was good enough, simply put he wasn't, and had attitude problems iirc.

[LittleCat]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

I don't know last years class scared me at the time, plus with Jones returning and millers progression they looked scary on paper. As of now, this team, not so much. As I've said, they'll be damn good im sure, but they don't scare me.

Poole could've played if he was good enough, simply put he wasn't, and had attitude problems iirc.

I admit, Lamb/Jones/Miller really helped UK with experience. Wjiter won't come close to equaling any of them.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by BigPapaCat

I admit, Lamb/Jones/Miller really helped UK with experience. Wjiter won't come close to equaling any of them.

Bingo. And the no senior leadership is something I'm not sure how cals team will respond to.

I thought miller was as important as anyone.

[LittleCat]

Miller was the exact opposite of Poole. Willing to not play for the benefit of the team.

[dukes_of_maggard]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

This class is good, but not unbeatable.

2013 will be an epic class

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by dukes_of_maggard

2013 will be an epic class

Many UK fans said the same thing about this class last year as well. You just don't know with some of these recruits. Cal recruits those top talent kids, and at some point, almost happened this year, he's gonna miss on a few and sign an average class. Still not a bad class, but for cal standards top 5 classes are expected. With that said, Kentucky is listed as schools of interest for 9 of the top 10 recruits in 2013, should be another good class.

I don't know tennessees history of class rankings, recent memory our highest class was 10 iirc. 2013 could be an epic class for Tennessee as well, possibly top 10.

[dukes_of_maggard]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

Apparently hardwood thinks so...

KSR has it that Bennett is a heavy UK lean and will commit at the JBC this weekend

[dukes_of_maggard]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

2013 could be an epic class for Tennessee as well, possibly top 10.

I would love that

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by dukes_of_maggard

KSR has it that Bennett is a heavy UK lean and will commit at the JBC this weekend

That's an interesting twist, pretty random as well.

I'm surprised Cal isn't targeting some back court guys, your alls backcourt depth is bad, hood, Wiltjer and beckham?