Nerlin Noel's & ShabaZz Muhammad thread...

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by blueblood

I agree Teague's decision is now very interesting. The closest incoming they have to a pg is Archie Goodwin which isn't his natural position. The closest they have coming back (if Teague leaves) is Twany Beckham (who barely saw the floor).

Wrong.

Ryan harrow is a transfer who sat out last year and will play this year.

Former PG 5* top 25 player.

[GatorsGators]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

2010 class: 3 five stars, 3 four stars, 3 top 10 players
2012 class: 3 five stars, 1 four star, 1 top 15 player

Well, Kanter never played a minute at Kentucky, so that's one of those five stars. Poole also did nothing, and Vargas was one of the most overrated prospects I've ever seen. Jones, Knight, and Lamb is a good trio, but I think that Noel, Goodwin, and Poythress is better. Also, while Harrow isn't officially in this year's recruiting class, he effectively is.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by GatorsGators

Well, Kanter never played a minute at Kentucky, so that's one of those five stars. Poole also did nothing, and Vargas was one of the most overrated prospects I've ever seen. Jones, Knight, and Lamb is a good trio, but I think that Noel, Goodwin, and Poythress is better. Also, while Harrow isn't officially in this year's recruiting class, he effectively is.

Maybe all around ok, but still 2010 has 2 top 10 guys, while 2012 has 1 top 15. The big time prospects that make UK So hard to beat aren't there this year, besides Noel's.

The other guys are damn good, but they aren't the typical NBA draft if not for the rule guys, if that makes sense.

[GatorsGators]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

Maybe all around ok, but still 2010 has 2 top 10 guys, while 2012 has 1 top 15. The big time prospects that make UK So hard to beat aren't there this year, besides Noel's.

The other guys are damn good, but they aren't the typical NBA draft if not for the rule guys, if that makes sense.

Poythress, Goodwin, and Harrow definitely are possible lottery picks. Considering that the highest-rated player in Knight's class never even played a minute of college basketball, I would say this class is head and shoulders above the 2010 class. JMO.

[Hardwood_fanatic]

Originally Posted by GatorsGators

Poythress, Goodwin, and Harrow definitely are possible lottery picks. Considering that the highest-rated player in Knight's class never even played a minute of college basketball, I would say this class is head and shoulders above the 2010 class. JMO.

If Bennett commits, which it appears that he will, then this class will be head and shoulders. As it stands now, I would say it is slightly better if you include harrow.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by GatorsGators

Poythress, Goodwin, and Harrow definitely are possible lottery picks. Considering that the highest-rated player in Knight's class never even played a minute of college basketball, I would say this class is head and shoulders above the 2010 class. JMO.

But they wouldn't be drafted lottery out of high school is what I'm saying. Davis MKG wall cousin knight all these guys it was widely known hey if they could go now are lottery picks, but they had to go to school.

The only person you can say that about RIGHT NOW with UKs class is Noels.

Also, I wasn't including harrow since he was brought in last year. If you're counting him for this year then ok it's much closer than I'm saying.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by Hardwood_fanatic

If Bennett commits, which it appears that he will, then this class will be head and shoulders. As it stands now, I would say it is slightly better if you include harrow.

UK is the favorite for Bennett?

[GatorsGators]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

UK is the favorite for Bennett?

No. An article from Catpause claimed that a UK commitment was close, but it's Catpause. Florida has been the favorite for a while, and while that can easily change, I'll take that report with a grain of salt.

[LittleCat]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

UK is the favorite for Bennett?

doubt it.

[GatorsGators]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

But they wouldn't be drafted lottery out of high school is what I'm saying. Davis MKG wall cousin knight all these guys it was widely known hey if they could go now are lottery picks, but they had to go to school.

The only person you can say that about RIGHT NOW with UKs class is Noels.

Also, I wasn't including harrow since he was brought in last year. If you're counting him for this year then ok it's much closer than I'm saying.

Knight is the only one from the 2010 class that you mentioned...

Poythress would be a lottery pick out of high school, and Noel is the early favorite for the #1 overall pick in 2013. Knight was a borderline Top 10 pick. How are the classes even close?

[LittleCat]

Harrow, Poythress, Noel, Cauly, Goodwin is a pretty good class compared to any of Cals. Imo, it's much better than 2010, when Knight wasnt really a top 10 , and a couple were overrated. Noel and Poythress will both be lottery locks imo.

[Sith Vol]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

2010 class: 3 five stars, 3 four stars, 3 top 10 players
2012 class: 3 five stars, 1 four star, 1 top 15 player

Depends on which site you are looking at.

Noel, Poythress, Goodwin all top 15 on Rivals.

I personally think this class is better than 2010.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by GatorsGators

Knight is the only one from the 2010 class that you mentioned...

Poythress would be a lottery pick out of high school, and Noel is the early favorite for the #1 overall pick in 2013. Knight was a borderline Top 10 pick. How are the classes even close?

I was counting kanter, but you're not and I'm not gonna argue UK athletics haha.

As I said even not counting harrow, and not courting kanter:

2010: 2 five stars, 3 four stars, 2 top 10 HS recruits

2012: 3 five stars, 1 four stars, 1 top 15 HS recruit

To me it's pretty obvious by looking at that which class is better. 2 players on the top 10 is huge, and really is MUCH better than 1 in the top 15. Now if you're looking at it as after the fact that well this guy didn't pan out blah blah blah ok, but from before they played a game I think right now the 2012 class is more impressive. After they play I completely a different subject, I'm talking before either class had played.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by BigPapaCat

Harrow, Poythress, Noel, Cauly, Goodwin is a pretty good class compared to any of Cals. Imo, it's much better than 2010, when Knight wasnt really a top 10 , and a couple were overrated. Noel and Poythress will both be lottery locks imo.

Once again I'm not counting harrow, as technically he's last years class. And also once again, I'm not going of of after the fact of them playing and you're saying they're overrated. I'm going by before they played and their specific rankings, that's it.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by Sith Vol

Depends on which site you are looking at.

Noel, Poythress, Goodwin all top 15 on Rivals.

I personally think this class is better than 2010.

Scout is much more known for basketball, as rivals is known for football, so I go by scout.

As I've said, if you're including harrow then ok I see it, but not including harrow I don't think it is. Jmo