Cuban and Stern on One & Done

[Shaun1985]

Dallas Mavericks' Mark Cuban -- Make players stay 3 years in NCAA - ESPN Dallas

Favorite part...

"I just think there's every good reason to do it, which is obviously why we didn't do it," Cuban said sarcastically, adding that Kentucky fans were the only people who like the one-and-done concept.

North Carolina fans sort of like it too

[ukvols]

KY favors one-and-done over letting guys turn pro right out of high school. Making players stay three years like in football would benefit KY even more. They'd have a second string that could win the SEC. Seriously, if they make everyone stay for three years, our chances of competing for an SEC title drop to zero until Calipari leaves.

[Aavoxx]

Originally Posted by ukvols

KY favors one-and-done over letting guys turn pro right out of high school. Making players stay three years like in football would benefit KY even more. They'd have a second string that could win the SEC. Seriously, if they tmake everyone stay for three years, our chances of competing for an SEC title drop to zero until Calipari leaves.

I disagree. Due to scholarship limits thier would be more top shelf guys to go around.

[Shaun1985]

Yup. Extending the one and done will certainly make it more even. I would guess there would be a TON of transfers. Would be pretty awesome to see a HS Sr go to KY and win a championship....Decide, "Well....let's go to Kansas or Duke now" sit out and then win another one your JR year before you declare.

[ukvols]

I doubt many top-shelf guys would make a transfer like that.

[Hardwood_fanatic]

Anyone is crazy to think that Cal wouldn't love to see a 2 or 3 year limit.

[zach0105]

I think if the nba started enforcing a three year separation from high school, we would see a lot more players go play in Europe and get paid.

[ukvols]

Originally Posted by Aavoxx

I disagree. Due to scholarship limits thier would be more top shelf guys to go around.

They have 13 scholarships. That's enough for more than two strings. Top-shelf football players don't seem to mind waiting their turn at Alabama right now. I'd expect the same for KY basketball. UT would be better off, whether it's one year or three years, if the best players also had the option of leaving right out of high school.

Since UT is usually not "in" on nearly as many of the top basketball recruits as KY, UT would benefit greatly if, instead of recruits having to declare for the draft, they were able to wait and see where they were drafted and then decide, like with baseball. If it worked that way, Calipari would annually lose some incoming players in the middle of the summer and would have to adjust.

[Shaun1985]

Originally Posted by ukvols

They have 13 scholarships. That's enough for more than two strings. Top-shelf football players don't seem to mind waiting their turn at Alabama right now. I'd expect the same for KY basketball. UT would be better off, whether it's one year or three years, if the best players also had the option of leaving right out of high school.

Since UT is usually not "in" on nearly as many of the top basketball recruits as KY, UT would benefit greatly if, instead of recruits having to declare for the draft, they were able to wait and see where they were drafted and then decide, like with baseball. If it worked that way, Calipari would annually lose some incoming players in the middle of the summer and would have to actually coach kids up instead of depending on raw talent straight out of highschool and would probably never sniff another 30 win season again

FYP

[milohimself]

NBA has a functional D-League, there's no reason they can't adopt the MLB rule.

Either turn pro out of HS, but if you opt for college, it's a three year commitment.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by Aavoxx

I disagree. Due to scholarship limits thier would be more top shelf guys to go around.

Not to join the chorus too much, but if that doesn't happen in football, it wouldn't happen in basketball. At USC in the Pete Carroll era, they had HBs and QBs buried three and four spots deep that would have started at literally every other school in the country. With Cal's "recruiting advantages" and a mandatory three year period in college, they and a few other schools would be the only programs with a realistic shot of winning the title any given year.

Right now, the only advantage that small schools have over the UNC's, KU's and UK's of the world is that they make up for talent with unit cohesion and an abundance of senior leadership.

Take that one advantage away, and I'd put down money that men's basketball starts to resemble women's basketball in that we'd wind up with the same handful of schools that are the only truly competitive ones.

[hep]

I tend to agree with most of yall. A 2 or 3 year limit would mean more parity, as less scholarships would be open for schools who typically sign one-and-dones.

[Aavoxx]

Originally Posted by ukvols

They have 13 scholarships. That's enough for more than two strings. Top-shelf football players don't seem to mind waiting their turn at Alabama right now. I'd expect the same for KY basketball. UT would be better off, whether it's one year or three years, if the best players also had the option of leaving right out of high school.

Since UT is usually not "in" on nearly as many of the top basketball recruits as KY, UT would benefit greatly if, instead of recruits having to declare for the draft, they were able to wait and see where they were drafted and then decide, like with baseball. If it worked that way, Calipari would annually lose some incoming players in the middle of the summer and would have to adjust.

Originally Posted by milohimself

Not to join the chorus too much, but if that doesn't happen in football, it wouldn't happen in basketball. At USC in the Pete Carroll era, they had HBs and QBs buried three and four spots deep that would have started at literally every other school in the country. With Cal's "recruiting advantages" and a mandatory three year period in college, they and a few other schools would be the only programs with a realistic shot of winning the title any given year.

Right now, the only advantage that small schools have over the UNC's, KU's and UK's of the world is that they make up for talent with unit cohesion and an abundance of senior leadership.

Take that one advantage away, and I'd put down money that men's basketball starts to resemble women's basketball in that we'd wind up with the same handful of schools that are the only truly competitive ones.

13 is far different than 85 when you're signing six or more guys a year.

[Ashevillevol]

Don't see how you are going to be able to restrict an adult from pursuing whatever career or work he wants to. and if there is someone with enough potential( Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant) there will be some owner who will go along with it.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by Ashevillevol

Don't see how you are going to be able to restrict an adult from pursuing whatever career or work he wants to. and if there is someone with enough potential( Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant) there will be some owner who will go along with it.

The deal with it is this: David Stern ultimately works for the owners, and requiring players stay in college for one, two or three years significantly reduces risk in signing rookies for the team owners. Potential players get to hone their skills at a higher level, and teams get essentially extra free scouting.