Penn State scandal (merged)

[bamawriter]

One of these days, one of the victims will talk to the press. And if he's willing to have a photo released, it's going to be taken in front of that statue. PSU's PR people are probably having fits trying to convince the BOT to take it down.

[vol_in_ar]

Originally Posted by bamawriter

One of these days, one of the victims will talk to the press. And if he's willing to have a photo released, it's going to be taken in front of that statue. PSU's PR people are probably having fits trying to convince the BOT to take it down.

i'm surprised LSUFREEK hasn't made a gif of it yet

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by knucklehead_vol

From what I have been reading I will agree with count. Paterno had too much power there.

I agree with that, but people would still be calling for i. No matter when the story came out, and no matter what Paterno did, there would be claims that he knew earlier, could done more, etc.

Don't get me wrong. Paterno unquestionably made the wrong, immoral decision, but I can see why he may have thought that covering it up would have helped him protect his legacy.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by vol_in_il

i'm surprised LSUFREEK hasn't made a gif of it yet

I would be disappointed if he did. Not humorous subject matter

[knucklehead_vol]

Originally Posted by milohimself

Conceiving of a guy like Sandusky raping children was difficult/impossible for people in the first place. I think there are unfortunately many people out there that would act as selfishly as JoePa and the other three, and if you think it played a part, football programs that are revered as much or more than Penn State.

I just don't think there is a football program that has that much power over the school. Don't get me wrong, football is probably bigger in the SEC, but we're talking about a guy who coached since 1966 and controlled the University basically. Hopefully we will never find out either.

Originally Posted by milohimself

I still think selfishness was the primary motivation, the good of the program being second.

Misread this part, I agree.

Originally Posted by milohimself

If I were calling the shots at the university, the state would come down and Paterno's name would no longer be on the library. In addition, I would voluntarily vacate all of his wins.

Costas had an interesting comment on Meet the Press this morning. Did you see it?

[knucklehead_vol]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Don't get me wrong. Paterno unquestionably made the wrong, immoral decision, but I can see why he may have thought that covering it up would have helped him protect his legacy.

Well the football program was his legacy. Anything negative would affect it. I mean this was supposed to be the Camelot of football right? They call the place Happy Valley and prided themselves on doing things the right way. How could you have something like that come out in a place like Happy Valley? It was the closest thing to a fairly tale you can get in a football program honestly. Not my cup of tea, but whatever. And besides, I think there will still be much more to come out with 2nd Mile.

[knucklehead_vol]

Originally Posted by bamawriter

We don't know that the DA was murdered, and if he was, whether it had anything to do with this case.

Well I would say it definitely points in that direction.

Originally Posted by bamawriter

[B]Given that he chose not to charge Sandusky, i'm not sure why anyone involved with the coverup would have offed him.

I can't speak on the evidence, but it's kinda odd he didn't charge him and then after a few years disappeared but his hard drive was found and destroyed. Is it so hard to think that a person that was a serial rapist, used a charity to lure young kids, who had the balls to continue to bring kids onto the campus and rape them even after he had been busted would be capable of other crimes such as murder? Nothing would surprise me.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by knucklehead_vol

Costas had an interesting comment on Meet the Press this morning. Did you see it?

I have it on my DVR, just haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

[knucklehead_vol]

Originally Posted by milohimself

I have it on my DVR, just haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

If you want to know what he said, don't read the other PSU thread.

[YorkVol]

President of the NCPA says he's sent a letter to Emmert asking that PSU players be able to transfer without penalty. If the NCAA were to agree, I'm sure there are enough players considering their options at this point to severely hurt the team. And the NCAA would not really have to impose any other sanctions. This may be a way the NCAA could appear to be sensitive to the needs of the players while not stepping in and ruling on what most think is properly left to the DOE and Courts.

Advocate wants options for Penn State football players | Football | CentreDaily.com

[YorkVol]

Another issue brewing, PSU is one of a few state institutions that are exempt from most of Pennsylvania's Right to Know (Open Records) Law. It is hindsight to say that Sandusky's actions may have been discovered earlier, but I think it is accurate to say the lack of openness to public scrutiny contributed to the closed culture. How can you say you are above reproach and maintain the utmost integrity if you aren't willing to be examined and held accountable? Hubris.

Record Tracker | Had Penn State been subject to open records law, Sandusky abuse could have been stopped earlier, educator says

He quotes Terry Mutchler, head of Pennsylvania’s open records office, as saying that “the exempted school police departments are the only police departments in the state that do not have to comply with state open records requests. Even the FBI must comply with open records filings, but not Penn State’s cops. That would become a key way the 1998 report about sexual misconduct by Jerry Sandusky stayed hidden for more than a decade.

“Had the Penn State police department been forced to disclose records as other departments must, you might have found a police report, a blotter item. You might have found something” that would have uncovered the Sandusky matter earlier, Mutchler says.”

Our take: Apply open records law to Penn State - The York Daily Record

Right to Know Law: PSU shouldn't get open-records exemption | PennLive.com

[YorkVol]

This is classic. Tom Corbett was the Attorney General before becoming Governor and only had 2 investigators working on the Sandusky case. Within a few weeks of his inauguration the new AG had 9 or 10 investigators working on leads and had enough to put it before the Grand Jury within a few months.

Most think Tom Corbett was part of the problem...

Gov. Tom Corbett disappointed in prior Penn State administration on Sandusky investigation | PennLive.com

[TXA&M07]

Statue might be coming down this weekend per Bleacher report and some Espn guys.

[KoachKletus]

Originally Posted by TXA&M07

Statue might be coming down this weekend per Bleacher report and some Espn guys.

Penn State,,,Paterno supporters need to make the tough decision and take it down. Happy Valley needs a thorough cleaning.

[TXA&M07]

Riots will ensue. I don't care either way really. Taking down a statue does not provide the type of closure everyone is seeking. I get that it's a public display and all, but let's not make this out to be more than a bandaide on a pretty significant injury.