Penn State scandal (merged)

[utvolpj]

Originally Posted by pl3

Played for Sandusky?

I'd leave the children at home.

yeah my wife's cousin. We've had some interesting discussions about PSU before

[TXA&M07]

Originally Posted by dreVol

Why would he go to the facilities director?
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Did it not take place on campus? Do we not all have some sort of "code orange" or code "maroon" in case of some criminal activity is taking place to shut down campus for the safety of the students?

It might be a bit of a stretch, but those that are members of that department have a right to be informed imo.

Granted, the guy wasn't carrying a loaded weapon around in plain sight, but you should get my point.

[TXA&M07]

what up PJ?

[DrunkJohnny]

Originally Posted by 2ironVol

Not when it comes to child abuse. He shold be fired immediately..

Yep.

The longer Penn State waits to fire him, the worse it gets.

[SamRebel35]

Originally Posted by TXVOL07

Defamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're welcome Counselor.

If it had turned out that the pedophile had never touched any boys, yet Paterno reported his second hand info to the police, would that be defamation? Reporting second hand information and accusing are two entirely different things. Am I wrong about this?

[Spartacavolus]

Originally Posted by TXVOL07

Did it not take place on campus? Do we not all have some sort of "code orange" or code "maroon" in case of some criminal activity is taking place to shut down campus for the safety of the students?

It might be a bit of a stretch, but those that are members of that department have a right to be informed imo.

Granted, the guy wasn't carrying a loaded weapon around in plain sight, but you should get my point.

Maybe he should have gone into the quad and rung the big bell

[2ironVol]

Originally Posted by Ohio Vol

Does anyone actually know what the conversation between Paterno and the AD included? If the AD says that he has to handle it because of various legal issues involved (and Paterno doesn't have a law background), then it ceases to become Paterno's responsibility. Maybe it's just me, but a coach having reported an issue to an AD (who has immediate access to lawyers and all sorts of other people advising him) is about as far as he could go with it.

WRONG on many levels. He could have/should have picked the phone up and dialed the Police. There isn't any rule at a University where you can't pick up the phone and call the Police

[DrunkJohnny]

Originally Posted by SamRebel35

If it had turned out that the pedophile had never touched any boys, yet Paterno reported his second hand info to the police, would that be defamation? Reporting second hand information and accusing are two entirely different things. Am I wrong about this?

No you aren't.

Dude is clueless.

[TXA&M07]

They have a "Chester Molester Bell" on the quad? Damn, things are rough in Happy Valley.

[PaVolsFan]

Originally Posted by 2ironVol

No so fast...not necessarily. If he knew for a fact Sandusky was abusing children and didn't relay it to the proper LAW ENFORCEMENT officials, he could be chareged as well. This isn't some NCAA violation. Heck, it isn't even fraud or robbery, it's CHILD ABUSE

Not true. Under PA law, and most states for that matter, Paterno was legally in the right by reporting the information to his superior. Morally and ethically in the wrong, but legally in the clear.

[TXA&M07]

Originally Posted by SamRebel35

If it had turned out that the pedophile had never touched any boys, yet Paterno reported his second hand info to the police, would that be defamation? Reporting second hand information and accusing are two entirely different things. Am I wrong about this?

If found innocent, the accused has the legal right to counter sue for defamation of character and Joe's bank account would be in jeopardy. He didn't have any facts. All he had was speculation. This was the GA's issue and some, but not all, acted accordingly.

[dreVol]

Originally Posted by TXVOL07

Did it not take place on campus? Do we not all have some sort of "code orange" or code "maroon" in case of some criminal activity is taking place to shut down campus for the safety of the students?

It might be a bit of a stretch, but those that are members of that department have a right to be informed imo.

Granted, the guy wasn't carrying a loaded weapon around in plain sight, but you should get my point.

I'm confused. Why does it make sense to inform the facilities director, but not Sandusky's direct supervisor?
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[DrunkJohnny]

Originally Posted by TXVOL07

If found innocent, the accused has the legal right to counter sue for defamation of character and Joe's bank account would be in jeopardy. He didn't have any facts. All he had was speculation. This was the GA's issue and some, but not all, acted accordingly.

Wrong again. Keep trying.

[TXA&M07]

Originally Posted by PaVolsFan

Not true. Under PA law, and most states for that matter, Paterno was legally in the right by reporting the information to his superior. Morally and ethically in the wrong, but legally in the clear.

Thanks for getting it.

[PaVolsFan]

Paterno I think should be booted. However, as an Alum, my biggest concern first is that President Graham Spanier is ousted. He knew and did nothing. He came out yesterday and said that the adminsitration gives unconditional support to the two administrators charged with perjury. What a horrible PR move. The fact the Penn State Board of Trustees met late last night and quickly followed up on ousting the two administrators shows that Spanier has already basically been stripped of decision making as it pertains to this scandal. I know if I were a Trustee, I would have been mortified at Spanier's response.