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05-15-2011, 11:19 AM
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| | VN GURU | LLoyd Carr to be in Hall of Fame
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05-15-2011, 11:36 AM
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| | VN GURU | I think Carr is an underrated coach. I know people will disagree with me and throw in Fulmer comparisons, but I do think the fact that Tressel dominated him at the end of his career overshadows some of his accomplishments.
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05-15-2011, 11:37 AM
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| First reaction was that there's no way he's Hall worthy. I haven't looked at any numbers for comparison or anything though |
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05-15-2011, 11:38 AM
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| | I'm Your Huckleberry | If Fulmer is in there is no way to justify keeping Carr out..vice versa. |
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05-15-2011, 03:58 PM
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| I met CLC about 16-17 years ago. I was the head coach of the middle school (before I took a HS job) in his mother's home town in TN. He was in town for her funeral and came by to see the field where he played little league games. I couldnt believe that the Michigan head coach walked up to me to introduce himself in my tiny town. He took time to talk to my players. He didn't have to do that. He earned my respect that day. He was a real classy nice fella. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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05-15-2011, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JayVols I met CLC about 16-17 years ago. I was the head coach of the middle school (before I took a HS job) in his mother's home town in TN. He was in town for her funeral and came by to see the field where he played little league games. I couldnt believe that the Michigan head coach walked up to me to introduce himself in my tiny town. He took time to talk to my players. He didn't have to do that. He earned my respect that day. He was a real classy nice fella. Posted via VolNation Mobile | Thats a nice story. Too bad people will get on here and belittle it. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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05-15-2011, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexvol If Fulmer is in there is no way to justify keeping Carr out..vice versa. | I'm not so sure. While you could argue conference strength as a factor, Carr does have more than twice as many conference titles despite having a shorter tenure. He also has more BCS bowls as well. This isn't intended to be a shot at Fulmer, but I do think Carr has at least a little better resume.
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05-15-2011, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JayVols I met CLC about 16-17 years ago. I was the head coach of the middle school (before I took a HS job) in his mother's home town in TN. He was in town for her funeral and came by to see the field where he played little league games. I couldnt believe that the Michigan head coach walked up to me to introduce himself in my tiny town. He took time to talk to my players. He didn't have to do that. He earned my respect that day. He was a real classy nice fella. Posted via VolNation Mobile | That story doesn't surprise me a bit. Carr always carried himself like a true professional. |
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05-15-2011, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ToineMac Thats a nice story. Too bad people will get on here and belittle it. Posted via VolNation Mobile | Eh, don't bother me. Like I said, I coach HS ball. I hear all kinds of crap. I don't really care what others think of me. (Not being a smart alec- just explaining). A message board comment will not bother me. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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05-15-2011, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 That story doesn't surprise me a bit. Carr always carried himself like a true professional. | He surely was that day. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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05-15-2011, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan I'm not so sure. While you could argue conference strength as a factor, Carr does have more than twice as many conference titles despite having a shorter tenure. He also has more BCS bowls as well. This isn't intended to be a shot at Fulmer, but I do think Carr has at least a little better resume. | Lloyd Carr has two outright conference championships, same as Fulmer. I don't put much stock in the three way ties.
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05-15-2011, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 That story doesn't surprise me a bit. Carr always carried himself like a true professional. | Lord knows he has acted like one about 10K times more than other notable coaches relieved of their duties around the same time. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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05-15-2011, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sammyjoey First reaction was that there's no way he's Hall worthy. I haven't looked at any numbers for comparison or anything though | He qualifies. Quote: |
A coach becomes eligible three years after retirement or immediately following retirement provided he is at least 70 years of age. Active coaches become eligible at 75 years of age. He must have been a head coach for a minimum of 10 years and coached at least 100 games.
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05-15-2011, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vols-1 Lloyd Carr has two outright conference championships, same as Fulmer. I don't put much stock in the three way ties. | So you just pretend nobody won those years?
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05-16-2011, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan So you just pretend nobody won those years? | No. You put the three way championships in context. No coference championship left the Big 10 with ties quite frequently. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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