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11-19-2010, 09:59 AM
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| Unless the NCAA rules cam ineligible, he will probably win. Most of they heisman voters are reporters who would sell out there own mothers to get ahead. Most of them sympathize with cam because they do the same thing everyday. Ive heard a bunch of them say they think college athletes should be paid. Unless the NCAA moves on cam, the heisman is his. |
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11-19-2010, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Volfan76 Unless the NCAA rules cam ineligible, he will probably win. Most of they heisman voters are reporters who would sell out there own mothers to get ahead. Most of them sympathize with cam because they do the same thing everyday. Ive heard a bunch of them say they think college athletes should be paid. Unless the NCAA moves on cam, the heisman is his. | What the hell does this have to do with voting for the best player in college football who hasnt been proven to have done a single thing to make himself ineligible. How is it fair to be the best but lose the award because of rumor and speculation, which is exactly what all of this is until they prove it. |
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11-19-2010, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BearCat204 What the hell does this have to do with voting for the best player in college football who hasnt been proven to have done a single thing to make himself ineligible. How is it fair to be the best but lose the award because of rumor and speculation, which is exactly what all of this is until they prove it. | Cecil has admitted to soliciting money for Cam, which makes Cam ineligible. Heisman rules clearly state that a player must abide by eligibility guidelines of the NCAA. Simple as that. |
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11-19-2010, 10:28 AM
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| I don't think accusations will affect the majority of the voters. But, hopefully, the investigations turn up some hard evidence before the vote. |
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11-19-2010, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Volfan76 Unless the NCAA rules cam ineligible, he will probably win. Most of they heisman voters are reporters who would sell out there own mothers to get ahead. Most of them sympathize with cam because they do the same thing everyday. Ive heard a bunch of them say they think college athletes should be paid. Unless the NCAA moves on cam, the heisman is his. | Maybe that INTEGRITY statement.
Take your pick:
*Stealing or having a stolen laptop
*Cheating in School
*Soliciting Payment
OK.... if only 33% is true, he should be out. |
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11-19-2010, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Volfan76 Cecil has admitted to soliciting money for Cam, which makes Cam ineligible. Heisman rules clearly state that a player must abide by eligibility guidelines of the NCAA. Simple as that. | I have heard different interpretations of the rule as far as solicitations. If it was as clear cut as you suggest, wouldnt the AA come out and deem Cam ineligible? Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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11-19-2010, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BearCat204 I have heard different interpretations of the rule as far as solicitations. If it was as clear cut as you suggest, wouldnt the AA come out and deem Cam ineligible? Posted via VolNation Mobile | There is no question that it is a rule violation. The only question is to whether or not $cam knew about the solicitation. The ncaa could be lenient if they don't believe he knew, but even that doesn't look likely as a recruiter for msu has already said that the $cam told him "the money was too much" for him not to go to Auburn. The ncaa has already notified Auburn about questions involving his eligibility before the Georgia came. |
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11-19-2010, 11:04 AM
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| if there was a viable alternative he wouldn't win, but who else is out there? |
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11-19-2010, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by droski if there was a viable alternative he wouldn't win, but who else is out there? | Well that's the thing, the only real option besides Newton is Kellen Moore and the only thing hurting him is the conf. he plays in. Outside of that a case can be made for AJ Green, Julio Jones and Ryan Mallet (who could become a much stronger candidate if this Newton things gets legs soon). |
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11-19-2010, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NickZ4UT Well that's the thing, the only real option besides Newton is Kellen Moore and the only thing hurting him is the conf. he plays in. Outside of that a case can be made for AJ Green, Julio Jones and Ryan Mallet (who could become a much stronger candidate if this Newton things gets legs soon). | I'd already call this Newton thing a Centipede.....except faster. |
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11-19-2010, 03:20 PM
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| Na, he'll win, and nothing will come from this investigation. |
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11-19-2010, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BearCat204 How exactly has he screwed himself? Whatever comes out of this, it will in no way affect his draft status Posted via VolNation Mobile | Yeah you are right. The NFL owners, & GM's love taking risks on proven cheaters, thiefs, and all around pieces of garbage.
I said it will hinder his draft status, not make him undraftable. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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11-19-2010, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by VoL BaLL 777 Yeah you are right. The NFL owners, & GM's love taking risks on proven cheaters, thiefs, and all around pieces of garbage.
I said it will hinder his draft status, not make him undraftable. Posted via VolNation Mobile | how many NFL teams (without a HOF qb) would take Vick right now? |
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11-19-2010, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumi Na, he'll win, and nothing will come from this investigation. | your an idiot. Cam will win, disgrace college football even more, and they will strip him of the award... |
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11-19-2010, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by utvolpj how many NFL teams (without a HOF qb) would take Vick right now? | Vick has been punished for what he has done.
Cam hasn't assuming all that hangs in the balance. It's safe to say something major is going too. And like I said before, I never said cam would not be drafted. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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