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Originally Posted by kidbourbon Some of them are tweeners from a position perspective, so let's just say "very good NBA players":
Derrick Rose; Brandon Roy; Chris Paul; Deron Williams; Mike Bibby; Baron Davis, Ben Gordon, Devin Harris, Jason Terry; Kirk Hinrich (was elite at one point...has dropped off a bit); OJ Mayo will be solid (he could have arguably be listed as a pg out of college).
The following guys aren't scrubs by any means:
Steve Francis (used to be good); Jason Williams; Andre Miller; TJ Ford; Jamal Crawford; Raymond Felton, Randy Foye
Mike Conley may still pan out. Too early to tell on Russel Westbrook or DJ Augustin.
Shaun Livingston -- not his fault.
We can argue about the merits of each of these guys and whether they are elite or just competent. But only one of them was a bust. So your argument that Jay Williams would have been an all-out bust and would have sucked as a pro is contrary to ten years of evidence. |
Hinrich and Felton are so good their teams have drafted another point guard with them on the roster. Jamal Crawford, who plays about as many minutes as I do at point guard, is such a contributor that he's spent his career being traded from bad team to bad team. The planet on which Kirk Hinrich is, was, or ever will be an "elite" player has never existed. The fact Sacramento became an NBA power upon trading Jason Williams is very instructive. Jason Terry has rarely seen the point since he went to Dallas. Brandon Roy plays the 3 as much as he does the 1. Also, I'm going to assume you didn't do the numerical comparison of rookie numbers I mentioned.
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